Re: Building ImageMagick on Cygwin

2002-05-01 Thread perlspinr
The URL I promised (as the o.p. who started this thread): http://home.att.net/~perlspinr/IM_build.html That page will give some background information, as well as I am able at this time. Hope it helps those who might want the help. I am sure that many readers of this List don't want my "help"

RE: [Fwd: Re[2]: 'redownload' aka download again and cygwin setup]

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> Original Message > Subject: Re[2]: 'redownload' aka download again and cygwin setup > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:04:07 +0200 > From: Marco Müllers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Marco Müllers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Marco Müllers > To: Earnie Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: Bug of Setup 2.194.2.24 running in "Install from Local Directory"

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Wu Yongwei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:39 PM > The new user interface has problems too on Chinese Windows. > Since you do not have the environment I do not expect to see > it fixed soon (I am not good at interfaces). I on

Re: 1.3.10: Permission Denied error (EACCES 13) on Win98SE

2002-05-01 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Greg, Just to confirm. On my W98SE, cygwin 1.3.10 I get the same permission error when running your test program. It could also have something to do with FAT32 vs NTFS. Ton van Overbeek -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/b

Why no shutdown? (was: Re: SSH -R problem)

2002-05-01 Thread Max Bowsher
On cygwin-patches@, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: > >So an ideal fix would detect "end of life" situations. Here is a brain > >storming idea: on a Cygwin close(), do a shutdown(.,2), free the Cygwin > Oops, absolutely no shutdown(). > > Pierre Why no shutdown? (I am aware that this is dangerously off-

RE: Setup configuration files specific to an installation.

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel Watford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Setup configuration files specific to an installation. > > > "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > None. If not install

tr command

2002-05-01 Thread serdar buyukkardes
I installed default cygnal packages,but I wanna use eCos and for this I must use tr command for initialize eCos insight and gcc patches. tr -d '\r' < insight-tcl.pat | patch -p0 tr -d '\r' < ecos-gcc-2952.pat | patch -p0 so which package should I use for tr command. because now there is an err

possible permissions bug (was: inetd / ftpd file permissions)

2002-05-01 Thread Craveiro, Marco
ok, i have searched the whole web (including cygwin ML) and i couldnt find anything specific to cygwin regarding the permissions of the files transferred via ftp. maybe i'm just a lousy searcher but if you havent replied because the solution was easy to find, PLEASE tell me where to RTFM because m

Re: proftpd/fetchmail?was trouble downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Jason Tishler
Dave, On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:11:56PM -0400, dave wrote: > Does anyone know what's happening if anything with fetchmail or > proftpd getting them to work? Regarding fetchmail, see the following: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-04/msg00617.html Jason -- Unsubscribe info: http

Re: Why no shutdown? (was: Re: SSH -R problem)

2002-05-01 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
At 10:34 AM 5/1/2002 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: > >Why no shutdown? (I am aware that this is dangerously off-topic for >cygwin-patches. I am cross posting there only for continuities sake. Please You can only shutdown when closing the socket for good at the end of the connection, but not e.g. when

New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
I've uploaded a new version of setup.exe, and source, to http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-md5-20020501.exe and http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-md5-20020501-src.tar.bz2. New features: * Allows source only packages. * Checks md5 sums if present in setup.ini *

1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Beach
Hi all, I've just been wrestling with some code I've been writing, trying to get pthreads condition variables to work under Cygwin on Windows 2000. I've tried DLL versions 1.1.3 and the 20020409 snapshot, and neither are working for me, so I'm assuming that no versions in between will work eith

Re: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Cliff Hones
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've uploaded a new version of setup.exe, and source, to > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-md5-20020501.exe and > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-md5-20020501-src.tar.bz2. > > New features: >

RE: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Cliff Hones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:12 PM > When I try "install from local directory" and select the > defaults (ie install everything which has been updated) setup > gets as far as showing the install progress box,

RE: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Beach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with > pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal() > > > Hi all, I've just been wrestling with some code I've been

FW: trying to understand poor performance of make + cygwin on W2K

2002-05-01 Thread Ken Faiczak
I'm trying gain some performance for our build process (cygwin on win2k) and have compared it to the same make on linux If I completely build our tree (about then rerun the make from the top it takes 9.5 seconds on linux if I do the same test on the same machine running (machine P3-500 512MB)

Re: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Christopher January
> Between 1.1.3 and 1.3.0 a huge change occurred in the pthreads code > base, so this assumption is not safe. (It's not necessarily wrong > either.) I'd definitely be using 1.3.10 though. > > > #include > > #include > > The cygwin c++ libgcc, stdlibc++ and gcc are not built with thread > support

RE: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher January [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with > pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal() > > > > Between 1.1.3 and 1.3.0 a huge change occurre

Re: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Cliff Hones
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Cliff Hones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:12 PM > > > When I try "install from local directory" and select the > > defaults (ie install everything which has been updated) setup > > gets as far as showing t

RE: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Cliff Hones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:56 PM > Yes - it did, and the install worked fine. After this my > /etc/setup/timestamp now contains 1016041807, and setup no > longer shows the warning re out-of-date setup.ini.

Re: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Cliff Hones
From: "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Are you 100% positive you have no other setup.ini's? Perhaps an old one > in the local dir root? Yes - using Find (the Windows version) on all my hard disks found quite a few setup.ini's of course, but only one was a Cygwin one, and this is the ri

Re: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Cliff Hones
> Are you 100% positive you have no other setup.ini's? Perhaps an old one > in the local dir root? Aha! Found it - I had renamed an old setup.ini with this timestamp to setup.ini.sav (in the local directory). I don't think setup.exe should be taking any notice of a file with this name though!

RE: Where is iostat?

2002-05-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 10:36 PM 4/30/2002, Peter Moulding wrote: >There are a lot of packages to search. I looked in cygwin.com/packages >and searched everyone that looked like a system or utility package plus >a random assortment of other packages. I just want to point out that there is a search mechanism on that

Re: tr command

2002-05-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 06:32 AM 5/1/2002, serdar buyukkardes wrote: >I installed default cygnal packages,but I wanna use eCos and for this I must use tr >command for initialize eCos insight and gcc patches. > >tr -d '\r' < insight-tcl.pat | patch -p0 >tr -d '\r' < ecos-gcc-2952.pat | patch -p0 > >so which package s

Re: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Cliff Hones
After a little experimentation, it appears that it doesn't matter what the file is called - if there's any file in the top level of the local directory with the format of a setup.ini file, it gets used for determining the timestamp to put in /etc/setup/timestamp. But its contents thankfully don't

cron and UNC files

2002-05-01 Thread Mike Campbell
I've got cron up and running fine on my win2k system with the exception that I don't have access to network drives via UNC format. I need to do something like this in a shell script that cron runs: IPADDR=3D`cat //host/share/directory/file.txt' This works fine when I run the script at the bash

CYGWIN ...what next ??

2002-05-01 Thread Patrick Quinnett
I believe I have done everything that I was directed to via the installation of CYGWIN onto my Windows2000 PC. I downloaded the setup.exe and then executed it. I now have a Windows directory structure that has a whole bunch of sub directories and bz2 files in them. I cannot find an executable

Re: cron and UNC files

2002-05-01 Thread Max Bowsher
Mike Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got cron up and running fine on my win2k system with the exception > that I don't have access to network drives via UNC format. Most likely cause: You are running cron under the LocalSystem (a.k.a. SYSTEM) account, which has no network credentials.

Re: CYGWIN ...what next ??

2002-05-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 10:12 AM 5/1/2002, Patrick Quinnett wrote: >I believe I have done everything that I was directed to via the >installation of CYGWIN onto my Windows2000 PC. I downloaded the >setup.exe and then executed it. I now have a Windows directory >structure that has a whole bunch of sub directories an

Re: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Beach
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 22:22, Robert Collins wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael Beach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:44 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with > > pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal() > >

Re: CYGWIN ...what next ??

2002-05-01 Thread Mark Cooke
On 1 May 2002, Patrick Quinnett spoke unto us wif: > > I believe I have done everything that I was directed to via the > installation of CYGWIN onto my Windows2000 PC. I downloaded the > setup.exe and then executed it. I now have a Windows directory > structure that has a whole bunch of sub dir

Re: CYGWIN ...what next ??

2002-05-01 Thread Max Bowsher
Patrick Quinnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe I have done everything that I was directed to via the > installation of CYGWIN onto my Windows2000 PC. I downloaded the > setup.exe and then executed it. I now have a Windows directory > structure that has a whole bunch of sub directories a

RE: 'redownload' aka download again and cygwin setup

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
Ok, well we had 3 'I use it's', and 2 'I don't', and something thousand 'I don't or I do but am too apathetic to reply :]'. So it's gone. If you have a corrupt file it will be detected during download and/or before installation. Rob > -Original Message- > From: Robert Collins > Sent: M

using pine to run links to view url's

2002-05-01 Thread Mark Cooke
Hi, I know this may be off topic, but I've selected links as my web brower in pine (using the full path - /usr/bin/links), but when I go to view a url from pine, it just returns that it has viewed it, but it doesn't run links. If I then quit pine, there is an error on the console saying it canno

RE: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Beach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:21 AM > Thanks for taking the time to look at this issue, but I must > disagree that > this is the problem. You're going to have to debug this yourself. I've given you my opinio

The updatedb script is not included when binary package is installed

2002-05-01 Thread john
I hope the title explains the problem in full. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/

new setup snapshot?

2002-05-01 Thread dave
Hi, Can someone repost the url of the latest setup snapshot? I'd like to try that. I think it's trying to redownload packages and quitting because they're already on my system. I'm hoping this new setup version helps. Thanks. Dave. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubsc

Re: new setup snapshot?

2002-05-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 12:19 PM 5/1/2002, dave wrote: >Hi, > Can someone repost the url of the latest setup snapshot? I'd like to try >that. I think it's trying to redownload packages and quitting because >they're already on my system. > I'm hoping this new setup version helps. >Thanks. >Dave. Why not look

Re: 1.1.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Beach
On Thursday 02 May 2002 01:37, Robert Collins wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael Beach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:21 AM > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at this issue, but I must > > disagree that > > this is the problem. > > Y

Resource temporarily unavailable - bash fails but works with old versions

2002-05-01 Thread Satya Nemana
I have a bash shell script that I run to test my software. It normally runs OK with old cygwin downloads. But when I downloaded my cygwin with the latest till date and ran my bash scripts, I started getting this peculiar error "Resource temporarily unavailable" for almost every cygwin command

'ut' library

2002-05-01 Thread Randy Reitz
Libc.a contains 'getutline' but not 'pututline'. How come? I'm using Cygwin version 1.3.10-1. Thanks Randy Reitz -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Re: mc

2002-05-01 Thread Frank Schmitt
"Emre Turkay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Im trying to compile midnight commander. Firstly I have compiled and >installed the glib package, after that mc compiles all the source files >without any error messages however when it tries to link them it says >that could not find 'gettext' and 'bind

Re: FW: trying to understand poor performance of make + cygwin on W2K

2002-05-01 Thread tprince
> > I'm trying gain some performance for our build process (cygwin on win2k) > and have compared it to the same make on linux > > If I completely build our tree (about > then rerun the make from the top it takes 9.5 seconds on linux > > if I do the same test on the same machine running > (mac

Re: New version of setup - prerelease available

2002-05-01 Thread Alan Dobkin
--On Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:33 PM +1000 Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've uploaded a new version of setup.exe, and source, to > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-md5-20020501.exe and > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/setup-md5-20020501-src.

Re: 'ut' library

2002-05-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 12:59 PM 5/1/2002, Randy Reitz wrote: >Libc.a contains 'getutline' but not 'pututline'. How come? Simple. No one has contributed it. Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street

Re: using pine to run links to view url's

2002-05-01 Thread Eduardo Chappa
*** Mark Cooke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote today: :) I know this may be off topic, but I've selected links as my web brower :) in pine (using the full path - /usr/bin/links), but when I go to view a :) url from pine, it just returns that it has viewed it, but it doesn't :) run links. Mark, Coul

Re: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Pavel Tsekov
Hello dave, Looking through you setup.log.full I find this: [irc] action=Skip trust=prev installed=none src?=no categories=All, Net [squid] action=Skip trust=test installed=none src?=no categories=All, Web [inetutils] action=Skip trust=test installed=none src?=no categories=All, N

Re: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:22:09 +0200 Pavel Tsekov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can share with the list what choices did you make during the > installation proccess ? I think Michael Chase already asked you about > this but you did not respond to his message. Are you installing cygwin > on this ma

Re: FW: trying to understand poor performance of make + cygwin on W2K

2002-05-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
Ken, What is the relative CPU usage as derived from the output of running your make under the "time" command? I'm guessing it's very low (assuming that there are no other interfering processes competing for system resources). If so, it suggests that the make command is triggering a significan

Re: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Michael A Chase
On Wed, 1 May 2002 14:44:29 -0400 dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Ok, let's see i start setup via run: > c:\temp\cyg-src\setup > I select next. Then i select download from internet. Setup then wants to > know where to place the downloaded files, c:\temp\cyg-src is already in > the > e

Re[2]: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Pavel Tsekov
Hello Dave, Wednesday, May 01, 2002, 9:10:28 PM, you wrote: >> Hi, >> Ok, let's see i start setup via run: >> c:\temp\cyg-src\setup >> I select next. Then i select download from internet. Setup then wants to >> know where to place the downloaded files, c:\temp\cyg-src is already in >> the >>

Re[2]: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread Pavel Tsekov
Hello Dave, Please, keep replies to the list. Ok - now that all of the questions I've asked you're answered please report what happens when you change the view to 'Partial'. Wednesday, May 01, 2002, 8:28:13 PM, you wrote: d> Hi, d> It's a fresh install, on windows 2k professional. And i am

write(2) return codes

2002-05-01 Thread david f
Hi, I've been doing some work on porting gnome to run on cygwin. One problem which I recently discovered in testing bonobo is that the write(2) system call seems to return the EACCES in the case where it should return EBADF. Here is a piece of code which demonstrates it: #include #include #

Rsync from cmd prompt

2002-05-01 Thread Bruce Dobrin
I've just started using Rsync and would love to have it run in my NT startup script, but although this works perfectly: dobrin@THEODOLITE:/home/dobrin> rsync -avz billabong:/d/dist/sysadm_general/ /temp/poop rsync: open connection using rsh billabong rsync --server --sender -vlogDtprz . /d/dis

Re: Re[2]: trouble again downloading.

2002-05-01 Thread dave
Hello all, First of all my apologies, i did not not mean to offend some of you by direct replies, i just have a bad habit of hitting the reply button. When i selected the categories i wanted packages for then went to view and partial i did see packages in the viewer window, however when i

Re: SSHD does not start upon reboot, but manual is ok.

2002-05-01 Thread Karl M
Hi Jeroen... My situation was also on a laptop, but it always worked every time at the office. It would sometimes fail to start up at home. The failures occured with cygrunsrv, but not with srvany. I have been using cygwin/openssh since before there was a cygrunsrv. I have not experimented wi

rfp: libiconv

2002-05-01 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Hallo Charles Wilson, > Any volunteers? > > --Chuck > > (*) okay, *one* more -- pkgconfig -- is in the works. but that's it. I > mean it. ;-) Come on Charles, you have a complete version of libiconv, ready for upload, what should the volunteer do? Repackage it to install in /usr instead o

Re: 1.3.10: Permission Denied error (EACCES 13) on Win98SE

2002-05-01 Thread Greg Houlette
Tom, Thanks for the confirmation. I had suspected that this error was reproducible on Win98SE systems other than mine and I also believe that it may be related to the FAT32 file system. The Cyclone buildlib utility uses OPEN rather than STAT due to the issue of STAT being a bit more platform de

RE: 'redownload' aka download again and cygwin setup

2002-05-01 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
> Ok, well we had 3 'I use it's', and 2 'I don't', and something thousand > 'I don't or I do but am too apathetic to reply :]'. > > So it's gone. If you have a corrupt file it will be detected during > download and/or before installation. Well, I guess it's too late to vote, but I really didn't l

Re: FW: trying to understand poor performance of make + cygwin on W2K

2002-05-01 Thread Earnie Boyd
This is a good topic. It's been a while since it was discussed on this list. For a real understanding of what's going on you should get the Cygwin code and execute your test under strace. It'll open your eyes to what happens to make the POSIX pathing work. There are a number of things that you

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: pkgconfig-0.12.0-1

2002-05-01 Thread Charles Wilson
pkgconfig is a tool used for managing the configuration information of OTHER packages. This is a routine update to the latest upstream version, 0.12.0. --Chuck To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to yo

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: pkgconfig-0.12.0-1

2002-05-01 Thread perlspinr
Hello Charles, I'll just mention, since I've been thinking a lot about pkg-config lately, that I wondered whether the buggy m4 macro code that makes it work (theoretically) with autoconf, has been fixed. I'll download the source along with the updated package and look for a changelog or some

Re: rfp: libiconv

2002-05-01 Thread Charles Wilson
Gerrit P. Haase wrote: > Come on Charles, > > you have a complete version of libiconv, ready for upload, > what should the volunteer do? Repackage it to install in > /usr instead of /usr/local ? Yes. Advocate its adoption. And, once it is part of the official distribution, monitor the mai

Re: Updated: pkgconfig-0.12.0-1

2002-05-01 Thread Charles Wilson
> that I wondered whether the buggy m4 > macro code that makes it work (theoretically) with > autoconf, has been fixed. Actually, the code you excerpted was generated by this stanza in the pkg.m4 file: if test -z "$PKG_CONFIG"; then AC_PATH_PROG(PKG_CONFIG, pkg-config, no) fi So,

Oops! Correction, that should have been 1.3.3 and upwards: apparent bug with pthread_cond_wait() and/or signal()

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Beach
Sorry, it was late and I misread the output from uname! The version of DLL I've been using is in fact 1.3.3, not 1.1.3. Regards M.Beach -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/

New snapshot with significant new functionality

2002-05-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
A couple of months ago Chris January submitted some significant new functionality to cygwin which I've finally gotten around to merging into the current cygwin sources. His changes add a /proc filesystem to cygwin. You can see what it does by downloading the latest bzip2'ed dll from http://cygwi

Re: New snapshot with significant new functionality

2002-05-01 Thread fergus
No problems, but is all the following expected behaviour? Having uncompressed the new .dll and copied it to /bin: 1. had to make /proc using mkdir /proc 2. ls -al / doesn't actually show /proc 3. ls -al /proc shows (something like) dr-xr-xr-x 10 0medicine0 Jan 1 1970 195162

RE: using Windows links

2002-05-01 Thread Mellman Thomas
>>-Original Message- >>From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:17 PM >>To: Mellman Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: using Windows links >>>An interesting side effect: I have a shortcut (Desktop.lnk) >>on my $HOME >>>that wa