Re: FW: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:16:20AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:01:30AM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] >wrote: >>I know better than to argue with you in general and on this subject in >>particular. (For those who don't know, Chris used to work for Cygnus

Re: FW: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:01:30AM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: >I know better than to argue with you in general and on this subject in >particular. (For those who don't know, Chris used to work for Cygnus >Solutions.) I just thought that it might be useful to point those who

RE: FW: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-26 Thread Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:25 AM > >>Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:38 >>AM >>>On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:28:56PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: I don't much like it, but that's reality. (...why did Cygnus fund

Re: FW: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:14:44AM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: >Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:38 AM >>On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:28:56PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >>>I don't much like it, but that's reality. (...why did Cygnus fund the

FW: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-26 Thread Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
Christopher Faylor sent the following at Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:38 AM >On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:28:56PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >>I don't much like it, but that's reality. (...why did Cygnus fund the >>early development, in the first place? To have a windows-hosted build >>environment

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:28:56PM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >Meh. Unlike linux, there is a significant portion of the cygwin user >base that treats cygwin simply as a "build environment" -- but use a >compiler for native win32 $hosts. > >I don't much like it, but that's reality. (...why did C

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-25 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On 25/01/2010 04:57, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: >> Point taken. But unfortunately the FLTK community decided it the >> other way with a majority of 74% (this must have been in or before >> 2003): >> >> http://www.fltk.org/poll.php?r1 >> >> Thus this is not likely to be cha

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-25 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 25/01/2010 04:57, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Point taken. But unfortunately the FLTK community decided it the other way with a majority of 74% (this must have been in or before 2003): http://www.fltk.org/poll.php?r1 Thus this is not likely to be changed. Sorry. Since when are matters such a

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-25 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On 24/01/2010 18:00, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: I'am aware that -mno-cygwin is no longer supported, but there's nothing we can do until a working gcc-4 cross compiler exists. So long we need to use gcc-3 for Windows/GDI builds (or Cygwin). That's what I'm trying to tell

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-24 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 24/01/2010 18:00, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: I'am aware that -mno-cygwin is no longer supported, but there's nothing we can do until a working gcc-4 cross compiler exists. So long we need to use gcc-3 for Windows/GDI builds (or Cygwin). That's what I'm trying to tell you: -mno-cygwin mean(t)

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-24 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On 24/01/2010 09:00, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: $ ./configure --enable-cygwin --enable-x11 --enable-shared Indeed, this does appear to work OOTB, although --enable-cygwin and --enable-x11 should be the defaults. I shouldn't have to say that I do *not* want to cross-c

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-24 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 24/01/2010 09:00, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: $ ./configure --enable-cygwin --enable-x11 --enable-shared Indeed, this does appear to work OOTB, although --enable-cygwin and --enable-x11 should be the defaults. I shouldn't have to say that I do *not* want to cross-compile (besides that -mno-

Re: FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-24 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: [...] I haven't tried the 1.3 branch, but the 2.0 branch certainly does NOT work with Cygwin/X11 OOTB: http://cygwin-ports.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/cygwin-ports/ports/trunk/x11/fltk2/r6403-configure-cygwin.patch Defining _WIN32, using -

FLTK versions in Cygwin [was: Re: units: update, FHS compliance]

2010-01-24 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On 23/01/2010 09:32, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Well, then there are probably good news from FLTK. The current development version (1.3.0) can be configured to work with cygwin/X11 OOTB: $ ./configure --enable-cygwin --enable-x11 I haven't tried the 1.3 branch, but the

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-23 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 23/01/2010 09:32, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Well, then there are probably good news from FLTK. The current development version (1.3.0) can be configured to work with cygwin/X11 OOTB: $ ./configure --enable-cygwin --enable-x11 I haven't tried the 1.3 branch, but the 2.0 branch certainly does

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-23 Thread Marco Atzeri
--- Sab 23/1/10, Albrecht Schlosser ha scritto: > Marco Atzeri wrote: > > > I was thinking to take his fltk-X11 package as I need > fltk > > for octave and the current package don't work at all > > for my need as Octave is X11 oriented. > > Well, then there are probably good news from FLTK. The

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-23 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
Marco Atzeri wrote: I was thinking to take his fltk-X11 package as I need fltk for octave and the current package don't work at all for my need as Octave is X11 oriented. Well, then there are probably good news from FLTK. The current development version (1.3.0) can be configured to work with c

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-22 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 01/22/2010 10:40 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19:10AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jan 21 12:40, Yaakov S wrote: On 21/01/2010 05:11, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Interesting. Especially the part about cmake. Did you try to convince Bill that WIN32 is not a goo

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19:10AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jan 21 12:40, Yaakov S wrote: >>On 21/01/2010 05:11, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>>Interesting. Especially the part about cmake. Did you try to convince >>>Bill that WIN32 is not a good idea for the Cygwin distro package? >> >>Yes

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 21 12:40, Yaakov S wrote: > On 21/01/2010 05:11, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >Interesting. Especially the part about cmake. Did you try to convince > >Bill that WIN32 is not a good idea for the Cygwin distro package? > > Yes, among other things: > > http://www.cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=101

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-21 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 21/01/2010 05:11, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Interesting. Especially the part about cmake. Did you try to convince Bill that WIN32 is not a good idea for the Cygwin distro package? Yes, among other things: http://www.cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=10122 Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-21 Thread Marco Atzeri
--- Mer 20/1/10, Corinna Vinschen  ha scritto: > > >   ping > > > > I will look at this, but it seems a bit tricky... in reality there was just a typo in the "ancient" predecessor of cygport used to compile and package it. It build fine, just need now the change of directory for the documentati

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:11:15PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >Interesting. Especially the part about cmake. Did you try to convince >Bill that WIN32 is not a good idea for the Cygwin distro package? Given the previous acrimonious discussion on this matter wrt GNU make, I would say that is a

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 20 14:30, Yaakov S wrote: > On 20/01/2010 10:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >It would be nice if people who are interested in becoming package > >maintainer would pick up the occasional package. Here's the current > >list of orphaned packages: > > >docbook-xml > >docbook-xsl > >

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 20 20:25, John Morrison wrote: > On Wed, January 20, 2010 4:52 pm, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Jan 20 16:00, Marco Atzeri wrote: > >> I think we should start a package adoption campaign, to > >> avoid additional workload to Yaakov. > > > > *P*ackage *A*doption *C*ampain? So a guy, who ad

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 20/01/2010 12:11, Marco Atzeri wrote: plotutils From http://www.gnu.org/software/plotutils/ The current version is 2.4.1, released July 2000. I should say not very active, is used somewhere ? Actually, the website just hasn't been kept current. I see now that plotutils 2.6 was relea

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 20/01/2010 10:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: It would be nice if people who are interested in becoming package maintainer would pick up the occasional package. Here's the current list of orphaned packages: >docbook-xml >docbook-xsl >openjade >opensp These are all part of Ports

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 20/01/2010 10:00, Marco Atzeri wrote: I was thinking to take his fltk-X11 package as I need fltk for octave and the current package don't work at all for my need as Octave is X11 oriented. At least officially, Teun Burgers is still a maintainer for the Cygwin FLTK package, so you need to co

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread John Morrison
On Wed, January 20, 2010 4:52 pm, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jan 20 16:00, Marco Atzeri wrote: >> I think we should start a package adoption campaign, to >> avoid additional workload to Yaakov. > > *P*ackage *A*doption *C*ampain? So a guy, who adopts one of > Yaakov's package is a PACman? > > We

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 20 18:11, Marco Atzeri wrote: > --- Mer 20/1/10, Corinna Vinschen ha scritto: > > list of orphaned packages: > > > >   apache2 > >   boost > these 2 scare me :-) Me, too :) > >   ping > > I will look at this, but it seems a bit tricky... It just needs a Windows hack for non-Admin users

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Marco Atzeri
--- Mer 20/1/10, Corinna Vinschen ha scritto: > On Jan 20 16:00, Marco Atzeri wrote: > > I think we should start a package adoption campaign, > to > > avoid additional workload to Yaakov. > > *P*ackage *A*doption *C*ampain?  So a guy, who adopts > one of > Yaakov's package is a PACman? > > We

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 20 16:00, Marco Atzeri wrote: > I think we should start a package adoption campaign, to > avoid additional workload to Yaakov. *P*ackage *A*doption *C*ampain? So a guy, who adopts one of Yaakov's package is a PACman? We have not only Yaakov's packages, but also a couple of orphaned packa

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Marco Atzeri
--- Mer 20/1/10, Christopher Faylor ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 08:40:14AM > -, John Morrison wrote: > >Ok, thoughts.  If Yaakov brought lots (most?) of > the packages into the > >main distro; > > > >1) Yaakov could continue to support the packages as he > currently does on > >cygpo

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 08:40:14AM -, John Morrison wrote: >Ok, thoughts. If Yaakov brought lots (most?) of the packages into the >main distro; > >1) Yaakov could continue to support the packages as he currently does on >cygports, but everyone would benefit from better integration Everyone wo

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread John Morrison
On Mon, January 18, 2010 8:39 pm, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On 18/01/2010 13:38, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> I think we could relax the ITP process if you wanted to do some bulk >> moves but I would hate to have anyone have to support so many packages. >> Even if I wasn't just concerned about you

units: update & FHS compliance

2010-01-20 Thread John Morrison
With many thanks to Yaakov, units has been brought up to date (1.87) and brought into line with FHS. All credit should go to Yaakov for his continuing (herculean!) efforts. J. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation:

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-18 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 18/01/2010 12:59, John Morrison wrote: I have however noticed that you have units in your cygports; would it be a terrible imposition of me to ask you to move it into the main cygwin release? Done (1.87-1); you'll send the announcement? Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/p

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-18 Thread Charles Wilson
Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > Given the normal pace of the ITP process, moving *all* of Ports into the > distro might take years. :-) But my short-term goal is remove the > overlaps between the distro and Ports in order to simplify the > installation procedure for Ports' users, see here for details:

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-18 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 18/01/2010 13:38, Christopher Faylor wrote: I think we could relax the ITP process if you wanted to do some bulk moves but I would hate to have anyone have to support so many packages. Even if I wasn't just concerned about your free time and sanity, I'd be worried what would happen if you left

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:36:06PM -0600, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >Given the normal pace of the ITP process, moving *all* of Ports into >the distro might take years. :-) But my short-term goal is remove the >overlaps between the distro and Ports in order to simplify the >installation procedure fo

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-18 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 18/01/2010 12:59, John Morrison wrote: I originally did the units package, Oops, misread the maintainer list. Sorry about that. > but, free time being what it isn't I've not really been tracking. > I have however noticed that you have units in your cygports; would it be a terrible imposit

Re: units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-18 Thread John Morrison
On Tue, January 12, 2010 8:55 am, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > Jari, > > Could you please update your units package, at the same time fixing the > location of the data file to be FHS compliant by passing > "--datadir=/usr/share/units/" (including the trailing slash) to configure? Hi Yaakov, I origi

units: update, FHS compliance

2010-01-12 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
Jari, Could you please update your units package, at the same time fixing the location of the data file to be FHS compliant by passing "--datadir=/usr/share/units/" (including the trailing slash) to configure? Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: