Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-15 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Gerrit P. Haase wrote: > Jon A. Lambert wrote: > > > Bill Priest wrote: > > > > > I typically save cygwin's setup.exe to my Desktop as I update cygwin > > > quite often; however, I've found that this interferes with some other > > > (admittedly buggy and lame install programs).

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 08:53:11AM -0500, Weiqi Gao wrote: >On 8/7/05, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Just in case it matters, unless Corinna disagrees, we won't be changing >> the name to something other than setup.exe. > >Thank you, thank you, thank you. Stick with setup.ex

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-08 Thread Weiqi Gao
On 8/7/05, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just in case it matters, unless Corinna disagrees, we won't be changing > the name to something other than setup.exe. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Stick with setup.exe! There are probably tens of thousands of little scripts writte

RE: setup.exe filename

2005-08-08 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Weiqi Gao >Sent: 08 August 2005 01:42 > On 8/7/05, Larry Hall wrote: >> Before anyone else trips, falls, and hurts themselves on this thread, >> let's put it back on the top shelf behind the locked door. After all, >> think of the children! ;-) > > Oh, the childr

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-08 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Jon A. Lambert wrote: Bill Priest wrote: I typically save cygwin's setup.exe to my Desktop as I update cygwin quite often; however, I've found that this interferes with some other (admittedly buggy and lame install programs). It isn't a big deal to rename setup.exe to cygwin_setup.exe (or you

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 12:44:48AM -0400, Jon A. Lambert wrote: >Many of the users I've turned on to cygwin don't immediately grok the >notion that setup.exe is more than just a run once installation program. >Usually the question after installing is "where is gcc? where is make?" "I >installe

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Jon A. Lambert
Bill Priest wrote: I typically save cygwin's setup.exe to my Desktop as I update cygwin quite often; however, I've found that this interferes with some other (admittedly buggy and lame install programs). It isn't a big deal to rename setup.exe to cygwin_setup.exe (or your favorite) or to do save

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 07:22:19PM -0500, Herb Martin wrote: >> [mailto:cygwin-owner cygwin com] On Behalf Of Brian Dessent ?? >>I do not like the idea of adding the version to the name of the file. >>To a naive user it would reinforce the incorrect idea that the ver

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Weiqi Gao
On 8/7/05, Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Before anyone else trips, falls, and hurts themselves on this thread, let's > put it back on the top shelf behind the locked door. After all, think of > the children! ;-) Oh, the children! Forgot about them. Should've been carefuller. :) -- W

RE: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Herb Martin
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Dessent > I do not like the idea of adding the version to the name of the file. > To a naive user it would reinforce the incorrect idea that > the version of setup has anything whatsoever to do with the > version of Cygwin and other packages that th

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Brian Dessent
Jason Pyeron wrote: > cygwin-update-client-.exe I don't see how that changes anything. The version of the setup program is next to irrelevent. As I said, if you try to run a version that's not the current one you get a message, and updates of setup.exe are made very infrequently. It is jus

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Brian Dessent wrote: A user might see "setup-1.2.3" and then later see "setup-1.3.4" and think, "oh look it's a newer version of Cygwin." Or, they would look at the version of setup.exe and not bother taking any action if it's the same as the one they already have, even thou

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Brian Dessent
Jason Pyeron wrote: > I like typing start->run http://cygwin.com/setup.exe, as I am sure most of > us do. But it would be a "best" practice to name the installer, something > descriptive, like cygwin-2.457.2.2.exe. I do not like the idea of adding the version to the name of the file. To a naive

RE: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Herb Martin
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:39 PM > To: cygwin@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: setup.exe filename > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Herb Martin wrote: > > > >

RE: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Herb Martin wrote: No, if you look closely you will see this is almost never the case for DISTRIBUTION package files or single install files -- it used to be true but was given up as a poor practice. how about a simple soultion here. I like typing start->run http://cygwin

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Larry Hall
On Sun August 7 2005 18:09, WG wrote: > On 8/7/05, Herb Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which brings up those who wish to make it available for other > > (internal) users > > Where I work, they've set up a internal cygwin mirror that's synched > everyday. Works like a charm. > > > Naming the

RE: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Herb Martin
> > Naming the program "setup.exe" is crude; it should have a version > > number and something about "cygwin" in the name. > > Wait a minute. The full name of the file is http://cygwin.com/setup.exe. No, the name of the FILE is setup.exe once it is saved (using defaults which is what the "ave

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Weiqi Gao
On 8/7/05, Herb Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which brings up those who wish to make it available for other > (internal) users Where I work, they've set up a internal cygwin mirror that's synched everyday. Works like a charm. > Naming the program "setup.exe" is crude; it should have a

RE: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Herb Martin
> Can't you just click on the http://cygwin.com/setup.exe link > from within IE and say "run"? There's no need to save it > anywhere. This way you will be always be running the latest > and greatest Cygwin setup.exe. > Sure, you "can" do a lot of things, but this is not necessarily a customa

Re: setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Weiqi Gao
On 8/7/05, Bill Priest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >cygwin.exe or cygwinsetup.exe would both be better names. > > > >If the name of 'setup.exe' was going to change, it would certainly > >need to convey to the user that it is an installation program, so your > >second suggestion might be better.

setup.exe filename

2005-08-07 Thread Bill Priest
>>cygwin.exe or cygwinsetup.exe would both be better names. > >If the name of 'setup.exe' was going to change, it would certainly >need to convey to the user that it is an installation program, so your >second suggestion might be better. Still, it is common practice to name >setup programs 'set