Re: setup alternatives using RPM

2005-06-23 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Brian Dessent wrote: This means you won't be able to install/remove any of those packages with rpm because it's impossible to replace in-use files under Windows and rpm does not know how to do it the windows-way. http://www.thescarms.com/vbasic/FilesInUse.asp so the cyg

Re: setup alternatives

2005-06-22 Thread Ralf Habacker
Am Mittwoch, 22. Juni 2005 18:27 schrieb Brian Dessent: > Jason Pyeron wrote: > > > static link and boot strap a core with the installer. Just like installing > > linux from cd. > > Cygwin1.dll cannot be statically linked. > > > gosh darnit, I just want to upgrade cygwin via ssh. > > You can tr

Re: setup alternatives

2005-06-22 Thread Brian Dessent
Jason Pyeron wrote: > static link and boot strap a core with the installer. Just like installing > linux from cd. Cygwin1.dll cannot be statically linked. > gosh darnit, I just want to upgrade cygwin via ssh. You can try the 'cygupdate' tools in CVS. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cyg

Re: setup alternatives

2005-06-22 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Brian Dessent wrote: I don't think it will be as simple as just converting the packages to rpm. The rpm command itself will depend on cygwin1.dll, and any subcommands that it executes (ls, awk, perl, whatever) will as well, in addition to any other DLLs that those commands

Re: setup alternatives

2005-06-22 Thread Brian Dessent
Jason Pyeron wrote: > yes, rpm and up2date. > > I was thinking this morning about writing a script to parse the setup.ini > and generate some no-src RPMs. > > It would be better if the RPMs were generated from src so dependencies > could be created 'properly'. I don't think it will be as simple

re: setup alternatives

2005-06-22 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Mon, 2 May 2005 Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:57:18PM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote: > My question as I've >asked before is, can or is someone working on improving accessibility >of setup.exe for those of us who have to use windows via a screenreader >and keyboard. Many

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Sean McMahon wrote: > Is there a cygwin port for this yast which will install cygwin packages? I No. > should point out that some of the controlls in setup.exe work. The initial > buttons for selecting install from internet, the next and back buttons, the > finnish button. It's really the mai

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Sean McMahon
- Original Message - From: "Brian Dessent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:42 AM Subject: Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent) > Bill Hughes wrote: > > > YaST from SUSE is

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Bill Hughes wrote: > YaST from SUSE is now GPL and handles dependencies quite well, the reason I > mention it is that as an alternative to the more normal 'pretty' gui it also > has a text mode gui-ish interface which may work better with a screen > reader/magnifier. I think that as long as we st

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-05 Thread Bill Hughes
Christopher Faylor cygwin.com> writes: > > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:04:24AM -0400, Arturus Magi wrote: > >Jani Tiainen wrote: > >>Why to reinvent wheel..? > >> > >>You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), > >>RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. > >

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 03:04:24AM -0400, Arturus Magi wrote: >Jani Tiainen wrote: >>Why to reinvent wheel..? >> >>You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), >>RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. > >I also seem to recall someone using apt-get in Cygwin-spa

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-04 Thread Arturus Magi
Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. I also seem to recall someone using apt-get in Cygwin-space at one time, but Google doesn't want to be my friend today. -- Unsubs

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Jani Tiainen
Max Bowsher kirjoitti: Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. All working, proven technologies. Would you like to have a go at porting one of them to Windows, then? Sorry

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Max Bowsher
Jani Tiainen wrote: Why to reinvent wheel..? You could use existing systems, like Debian package-system (deb), RPM-system like Fedora Core/RedHat, or Gentoo's Emerge. All working, proven technologies. Would you like to have a go at porting one of them to Windows, then? Also, what about a GUI? I wou

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Jani Tiainen
Max Bowsher kirjoitti: James Renton wrote: What about http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/? There are very many installer builders for windows, but none that I have seen manage many independently updated packages with interdependencies, in the way that our current setup does. Max. -Original

Re: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-03 Thread Max Bowsher
James Renton wrote: What about http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/? There are very many installer builders for windows, but none that I have seen manage many independently updated packages with interdependencies, in the way that our current setup does. Max. -Original Message- From: [EMA

RE: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of setup.exe when setup.ini is absent)

2005-05-02 Thread James Renton
What about http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:39 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: setup alternatives (was Re: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of se