Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 03:56:16PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Nov 30 15:33, Thomas Wolff wrote: >> Andy Koppe wrote: >> >2009/11/29 Linda Walsh: >> They are actually listed in all CJK character sets (checking i18n >> data). Whether this was really used or not, it makes their view as >> "pre

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-30 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 30 15:33, Thomas Wolff wrote: > Andy Koppe wrote: > >2009/11/29 Linda Walsh: > They are actually listed in all CJK character sets (checking i18n > data). Whether this was really used or not, it makes their view as > "presentation forms" weaker. > > >>_I_ use those [wide ASCII chars] in file

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Wolff
Andy Koppe wrote: 2009/11/29 Linda Walsh: I'm aware that this would reserve the 'display forms' of those chars and map them them to their real forms when interpreted within cygwin. I don't see this to be a problem. But it is a problem. It would make it impossible to use the wide

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-29 Thread Andy Koppe
2009/11/29 Linda Walsh: >        I'm aware that this would reserve the 'display forms' > of those chars and map them them to their real forms when > interpreted within cygwin.  I don't see this to be a problem. But it is a problem. It would make it impossible to use the wide forms of those deadly

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-29 Thread Linda Walsh
Eric Blake wrote: Rather than complaining, write a patch to prove your point. Patches speak much louder than rants on open source projects. But I won't be the one writing the patch. I already supplied code in the first email. It's a matter of using those constants instead of the

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 28 13:53, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Besides, we have not only to map the few > characters you're talking about, the U+f0XX range is also used to > map invalid UTF-8 chars. Oh, and all control characters from 0x01 to 0x1f. The only feasible alternative to the U+f0XX range would be one of th

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-28 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 28 05:19, Eric Blake wrote: > According to Linda Walsh on 11/28/2009 3:24 AM: > > Any other standards group I know of is going UTF-8. All of the > > linux distributions I know are going UTF-8. I'd like to see Cygwin > > go that way too. I don't understand this one. What on earth are you

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-28 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Linda Walsh on 11/28/2009 3:24 AM: > But barring any other changes, I'd really, (like pretty please!) > like to see them mapped to their, reserved-visual, but semantically > impotent equivalents. http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC Rather

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-28 Thread Linda Walsh
# Eric Blake:... [believes he has round trip mapping and that it is more valuable] than user's being able to identify their files in the OS GUI or on a linux server] # Linda W. replies to Eric: [points out that the current system already uses valid Unicode values (as others have poin

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-24 Thread Thomas Wolff
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Nov 23 20:29, Linda Walsh wrote: Eric Blake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Linda Walsh on 11/23/2009 4:59 PM: Instead of using random characters out of the 'random free area' -- which could display as anything if you

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 24 09:50, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Nov 23 20:29, Linda Walsh wrote: > > Eric Blake wrote: > > >But then, how would you distinguish between the valid UTF-16 replacement > > >used to represent an invalid character, and a valid UTF-16 character > > >representing itself? I'm sorry, but the

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 23 20:29, Linda Walsh wrote: > Eric Blake wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >According to Linda Walsh on 11/23/2009 4:59 PM: > >>Instead of using random characters out of the 'random free area' -- > >>which could display as anything if you aren't in cygwin, dep

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-23 Thread Linda Walsh
Eric Blake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Linda Walsh on 11/23/2009 4:59 PM: Instead of using random characters out of the 'random free area' -- which could display as anything if you aren't in cygwin, depending on what charset you have loaded, why not use 'd

Re: cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-23 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Linda Walsh on 11/23/2009 4:59 PM: > Instead of using random characters out of the 'random free area' -- > which could display as anything if you aren't in cygwin, depending > on what charset you have loaded, why not use 'dedicated' unico

cyg1.7 - DOS character remapping: change request.

2009-11-23 Thread Linda Walsh
Was thinking about a 1 or 2 mods for the new characters that are being remapped to the 'private area', but also a compatibility bug. Maybe I'll get the bug out of the way first. Filenames created on a samba share are not visible on the server as anything resembling what I used on Cygwin. I see