Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-31 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, L. A. Walsh! >> Do you mean, that Windows itself is a problem? >> Or version 10 of Windows is a problem? Anyway, all Windows users will >> use Windows 10 (or successors) sooner or later. >> So it's only the beginning of the story. > --- > You haven't been keeping in touch w/linu

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2016-10-29 00:13, L. A. Walsh wrote: Evgeny Grin wrote: Do you mean, that Windows itself is a problem? Or version 10 of Windows is a problem? Anyway, all Windows users will use Windows 10 (or successors) sooner or later. So it's only the beginning of the story. You haven't been keeping i

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-28 Thread L. A. Walsh
Evgeny Grin wrote: A lot of? I don't know many... correction.. any GNU/Linux tools that works badly with \n newlines. --- All the tools in linux and current MacOS use 1 character to indicate end of line. It is only windows that has a problem. Is Cygwin still better for something? ---

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-28 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Evgeny Grin! > On 27.10.2016 16:22, Andrey Repin wrote: >> Greetings, Evgeny Grin! > Privet, Андрей! >>> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >>> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Duncan Roe wrote: > CMD.EXE has supported input and output redirection since forever (XP at > least). > I suggest claiming it as a "new feature" is just marketing hype. I believe the point was that WSL is no longer quite the completely isolated island it started a

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Evgeny Grin
On 27.10.2016 16:22, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, Evgeny Grin! Privet, Андрей! >> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ub

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Evgeny Grin
On 27.10.2016 1:57, Duncan Roe wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:21:07AM +0300, Evgeny Grin wrote: >> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Evgeny Grin! > With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command > from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/ > Seems that WSL also automatically tra

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-26 Thread Duncan Roe
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:21:07AM +0300, Evgeny Grin wrote: > With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command > from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/ > S

Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-26 Thread Evgeny Grin
With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/ Seems that WSL also automatically translate \r\n<->\n. There still no

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-09-04 Thread Herbert Stocker
On 30.08.2016 23:26, Erik Soderquist wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: Now try to pipe something from a native application to your UFW build, and then the results from it to something else native. I'm eagerly awaiting reports of your success. Done it already, using ne

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: > Now try to pipe something from a native application to your UFW build, and > then the results from it to something else native. > I'm eagerly awaiting reports of your success. Done it already, using netcat and a few localhost ports, using ssh,

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, lloyd.w...@yahoo.co.uk! > A viewpoint on this whole Windows Ubuntu Frankenstein hybrid vs Cygwin thing: > In comparison with the difficulties trying to build Geomview under 64-bit > Cygwin, > then discovering the piping issues that prevent it working with modules, using > the Windows

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 30/08/2016 09:44, lloyd.w...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A viewpoint on this whole Windows Ubuntu Frankenstein hybrid vs Cygwin thing: In comparison with the difficulties trying to build Geomview under 64-bit Cygwin, then discovering the piping issues that prevent it working with modules, using the W

RE: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Schwarz, Konrad
> So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part > of Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. Thank you for your responses and sorry for the wording of my original post. I now understand the differences somewhat better. -- Problem reports:

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread lloyd.wood
A viewpoint on this whole Windows Ubuntu Frankenstein hybrid vs Cygwin thing: In comparison with the difficulties trying to build Geomview under 64-bit Cygwin, then discovering the piping issues that prevent it working with modules, using the Windows Ubuntu subsystem to install pre-existing Ubunt

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Andrew Schulman
> So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of > Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. For a previous discussion of this, see the thread starting at https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2016-04/msg00244.html. -- Problem reports: http://cygw

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Schwarz, Konrad! > So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of > Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. Please don't start this flamewar again. The topic was discussed to death, use search. In short, the problem is that is an isolate

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Keith Christian
ou, Cygwin Maintainers !!) Windows Subsystem For Linux sounds like a great idea though, usability reports would be read with interest by the majority of users on this list,as well as what "WSFL" can (and cannot) do vis-a-vis Cygwin. On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 5:15 AM, Ray Donnelly wrote: &g

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Prince
On 8/29/2016 7:15 AM, Ray Donnelly wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Schwarz, Konrad > wrote: >> So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of >> Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. >> > That seems a *little* inflam

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Ray Donnelly
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Schwarz, Konrad wrote: > So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of > Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. > That seems a *little* inflammatory to me. Since Windows Subsystem for Linux can't inter-operat

Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Schwarz, Konrad
So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info