Re: goldstar? Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-27 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Wow. Nice summation of the reasons for the need for a c:\cygwin. > > Can I get a goldstar here? Awarded. Sorry for the delay. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-22 Thread Thomas Plank
Linda Walsh (cyg...@tlinx.org) wrote: > OTOH, at least the defaults are pretty sensible (I can just hit ENTER), > through the setup -- EXCEPT...at the end -- how many times do I > have to tell setup that I *STILL* don't want the icon on my desktop??! I'm using cygwin on two different computers (h

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-18 Thread Linda Walsh
Harald Joerg wrote: > Linda Walsh writes: > >> [...] OTOH, at least the defaults are pretty sensible ... > > Pretty sensible, indeed. I love /cygdrive as just another example of a > pretty sensible default. --- Well, MS, put their unix in /unix. Wouldn't it make sense to put a cygwin su

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-18 Thread Shaddy Baddah
Hi Andy, Andy Koppe wrote: 2009/9/16 Dave Korn: whatever) prefixes when accessing stuff from the other side of the fence. Never mind the fence, what colour are we going to paint the bikeshed? This is purely a matter of taste. Exactly. I didn't mean to suggest that Cygwin sh

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: Haven't we already looped several times in this discussion? I don't think there is any new information that needs to be imparted. Can we close this down now? People obviously wish to discuss the issue. If you're not interested in their discussion then can't you simply

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Andrew Schulman wrote: Personally I like /win/c etc., but sure, I guess you could put none / cygdrive binary,posix=0,user 0 0 into /etc/fstab and get /c, /d, etc. There is a huge downside to this. I tried it. It totally broke all my p

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 06:25:44PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >According to Larry Hall (Cygwin) on 9/17/2009 12:53 PM: >> While I'm not suggesting that people should reassign their "cygdrive" >> prefix >> to "/", I think the problem you saw in your ca

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Larry Hall (Cygwin) on 9/17/2009 12:53 PM: > While I'm not suggesting that people should reassign their "cygdrive" > prefix > to "/", I think the problem you saw in your case is a result of having set > CVS up when your setting was still "

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 09/17/2009 12:32 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Andrew Schulman wrote: Personally I like /win/c etc., but sure, I guess you could put none / cygdrive binary,posix=0,user 0 0 into /etc/fstab and get /c, /d, etc. There is a huge downside to this. I tried i

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Andrew Schulman wrote: > Personally I like /win/c etc., but sure, I guess you could put > > none / cygdrive binary,posix=0,user 0 0 > > into /etc/fstab and get /c, /d, etc. There is a huge downside to this. I tried it. It totally broke all my projects using CV

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 06:36:26AM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >2009/9/17 Christopher Faylor: >>>My real gripe is with setup telling me off about putting Cygwin in the >>>root dir ON EVERY SINGLE UPDATE. >> >> My real gripe is people who COMPLAIN ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE where they >> HAVE THE SOURCE CODE.

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 09/17/2009 01:18 AM, Andy Koppe wrote: 2009/9/16 Dave Korn: whatever) prefixes when accessing stuff from the other side of the fence. Never mind the fence, what colour are we going to paint the bikeshed? This is purely a matter of taste. Exactly. I didn't mean to suggest that Cygwin

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Ralph Hempel
Harald Joerg wrote: ... -- EXCEPT...at the end -- how many times do I have to tell setup that I *STILL* don't want the icon on my desktop??! I eventually got around that one. I found that I do not want *any* icons on my desktop and switched them off completely. There is an option in the "Sor

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Harald Joerg
Linda Walsh writes: > [...] OTOH, at least the defaults are pretty sensible ... Pretty sensible, indeed. I love /cygdrive as just another example of a pretty sensible default. > ... (I can just hit ENTER), through the setup ... ...and the default buttons in the GUI are always in the same place

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Andy Koppe (Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:06:45 +0100) > 2009/9/16 Thorsten Kampe > > you shouldn't install Cygwin > > directly to C:\ (but to C:\cygwin): so you don't have the Cygwin and the > > Windows root folder structure mixed. > > And where exactly is the harm in that? Apple certainly don't see a >

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Linda Walsh
Shaddy Baddah wrote: > In this case, although cygwin has a package management system, it is > not going to manage the non-cygwin stuff dropped into c:/bin,lib, > etc. And that means if a user goes and installs something like msys --- I knew I had a good reason for thinking it would cause tr

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Linda Walsh
Andy Koppe wrote: > 2009/9/17 Christopher Faylor: >>> My real gripe is with setup telling me off about putting Cygwin in the >>> root dir ON EVERY SINGLE UPDATE. >> My real gripe is people who COMPLAIN ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE where they >> HAVE THE SOURCE CODE. > > Ah, that old lazy chestnut. Feedback

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Andy Koppe
2009/9/17 Christopher Faylor: >>My real gripe is with setup telling me off about putting Cygwin in the >>root dir ON EVERY SINGLE UPDATE. > > My real gripe is people who COMPLAIN ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE where they > HAVE THE SOURCE CODE. Ah, that old lazy chestnut. Feedback not welcome. At least get a

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 06:18:21AM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >2009/9/16 Dave Korn: >>> whatever) prefixes when accessing stuff from the other side of the >>> fence. >> >> ??Never mind the fence, what colour are we going to paint the bikeshed? >> >> ??This is purely a matter of taste. > >Exactly. I d

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Andy Koppe
2009/9/16 Dave Korn: >> whatever) prefixes when accessing stuff from the other side of the >> fence. > >  Never mind the fence, what colour are we going to paint the bikeshed? > >  This is purely a matter of taste. Exactly. I didn't mean to suggest that Cygwin should go into C:\ by default. And ye

Re: goldstar? Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Shaddy Baddah
Hi, Before I start, I want to admit that I think I may have misinterpreted Andy Koppe's email. I now see that Andy may have been defending *not* demarcating the rest of the windows world with a /cygdrive prefix by just having all c:/ subpaths accessabile directly from the / prefix. That's not my

Re: goldstar? Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: [re: Shaddy Baddah] > Wow.  Nice summation of the reasons for the need for a c:\cygwin. > > Can I get a goldstar here? Indeed, a nice summary. Let me dispel some misconceptions that piped up in the Apple comparison: the two ways of thinki

goldstar? Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:35:11AM +1000, Shaddy Baddah wrote: >Hi, > >Andy Koppe wrote: >> 2009/9/16 Thorsten Kampe >> >>> you shouldn't install Cygwin >>> directly to C:\ (but to C:\cygwin): so you don't have the Cygwin and the >>> Windows root folder structure mixed. >>> >> >> And where

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Shaddy Baddah
Hi, Andy Koppe wrote: 2009/9/16 Thorsten Kampe you shouldn't install Cygwin directly to C:\ (but to C:\cygwin): so you don't have the Cygwin and the Windows root folder structure mixed. And where exactly is the harm in that? Apple certainly don't see a problem with it, with the likes

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Linda Walsh
Vincent R. wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any good reason to force user to use /cygdrive/ before accessing > a drive ? > I am asking it because I regularly switch from cygwin to mingw and some > simple script needs > to be adapted every time. > Wouldn't be easier to access directly to a drive without e

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:40:33PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >Andy Koppe wrote: >> 2009/9/16 Thorsten Kampe >> whatever) prefixes when accessing stuff from the other side of the >> fence. > > Never mind the fence, what colour are we going to paint the bikeshed? Please take this discussion to cygwin

RE: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
Vincent R. sent the following at Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:09 PM >> Vincent R. wrote: >>> Is there any good reason to force user to use /cygdrive/ before >>> accessing a drive? > >Ok I see your point but I find it weird to complicate things by adding >/cygdrive. Maybe some people are crazy

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Dave Korn
Andy Koppe wrote: > 2009/9/16 Thorsten Kampe > whatever) prefixes when accessing stuff from the other side of the > fence. Never mind the fence, what colour are we going to paint the bikeshed? This is purely a matter of taste. To each their own and de gustibus non disputandum est. cheer

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Andy Koppe
2009/9/16 Thorsten Kampe > you shouldn't install Cygwin > directly to C:\ (but to C:\cygwin): so you don't have the Cygwin and the > Windows root folder structure mixed. And where exactly is the harm in that? Apple certainly don't see a problem with it, with the likes of /Applications and /Users l

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Vincent R. (Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:08:59 +0200) > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:02:19 -0700, Andrew DeFaria > wrote: > > Vincent R. wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Is there any good reason to force user to use /cygdrive/ before > >> accessing a drive ? > > Considering you aren't forced to use /cygdrive/ (se

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Thomas Wolff
Vincent R. wrote: > Wouldn't be easier to access directly to a drive without entering > cygdrive? Is there any reason for that ? Dave Korn wrote: > Go ahead. You can create a mountpoint anywhere you like, so if you want > MinGW-style /c, /d, etc., just use the 'mount' command or edit the fstab.

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Andrew Schulman
> > Wouldn't be easier to access directly to a drive without entering > > cygdrive? Is there any reason for that ? > > Go ahead. You can create a mountpoint anywhere you like, so if you want > MinGW-style /c, /d, etc., just use the 'mount' command or edit the fstab. Personally I like /win/c et

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Vincent R. wrote: Ok I see your point but I find it weird to complicate things by adding /cygdrive. /cygdrive is just the string of characters the coder implementing that code choose to use. Be thankful. He could have choose /ThisIsThePathIWantedToUseToIndicateWindowsDrives! ;-) Maybe some pe

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Vincent R.
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:02:19 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Vincent R. wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there any good reason to force user to use /cygdrive/ before >> accessing a drive ? > Considering you aren't forced to use /cygdrive/ (see mount(1m)) no... >> I am asking it because I regularly switch fr

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Vincent R. wrote: Hi, Is there any good reason to force user to use /cygdrive/ before accessing a drive ? Considering you aren't forced to use /cygdrive/ (see mount(1m)) no... I am asking it because I regularly switch from cygwin to mingw and some simple script needs to be adapted every time.

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-16 Thread Dave Korn
Vincent R. wrote: > Wouldn't be easier to access directly to a drive without entering > cygdrive? Is there any reason for that ? Go ahead. You can create a mountpoint anywhere you like, so if you want MinGW-style /c, /d, etc., just use the 'mount' command or edit the fstab. cheers,