Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-31 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, L. A. Walsh! >> Do you mean, that Windows itself is a problem? >> Or version 10 of Windows is a problem? Anyway, all Windows users will >> use Windows 10 (or successors) sooner or later. >> So it's only the beginning of the story. > --- > You haven't been keeping in touch w/linu

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-29 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2016-10-29 00:13, L. A. Walsh wrote: Evgeny Grin wrote: Do you mean, that Windows itself is a problem? Or version 10 of Windows is a problem? Anyway, all Windows users will use Windows 10 (or successors) sooner or later. So it's only the beginning of the story. You haven't been keeping i

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-28 Thread L. A. Walsh
Evgeny Grin wrote: A lot of? I don't know many... correction.. any GNU/Linux tools that works badly with \n newlines. --- All the tools in linux and current MacOS use 1 character to indicate end of line. It is only windows that has a problem. Is Cygwin still better for something? ---

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-28 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Evgeny Grin! > On 27.10.2016 16:22, Andrey Repin wrote: >> Greetings, Evgeny Grin! > Privet, Андрей! >>> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >>> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Duncan Roe wrote: > CMD.EXE has supported input and output redirection since forever (XP at > least). > I suggest claiming it as a "new feature" is just marketing hype. I believe the point was that WSL is no longer quite the completely isolated island it started a

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Evgeny Grin
On 27.10.2016 16:22, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, Evgeny Grin! Privet, Андрей! >> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ub

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Evgeny Grin
On 27.10.2016 1:57, Duncan Roe wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:21:07AM +0300, Evgeny Grin wrote: >> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-27 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Evgeny Grin! > With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command > from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/ > Seems that WSL also automatically tra

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin?

2016-10-26 Thread Duncan Roe
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:21:07AM +0300, Evgeny Grin wrote: > With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command > from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/ > S

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-09-04 Thread Herbert Stocker
On 30.08.2016 23:26, Erik Soderquist wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: Now try to pipe something from a native application to your UFW build, and then the results from it to something else native. I'm eagerly awaiting reports of your success. Done it already, using ne

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Erik Soderquist
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Andrey Repin wrote: > Now try to pipe something from a native application to your UFW build, and > then the results from it to something else native. > I'm eagerly awaiting reports of your success. Done it already, using netcat and a few localhost ports, using ssh,

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, lloyd.w...@yahoo.co.uk! > A viewpoint on this whole Windows Ubuntu Frankenstein hybrid vs Cygwin thing: > In comparison with the difficulties trying to build Geomview under 64-bit > Cygwin, > then discovering the piping issues that prevent it working with modules, using > the Windows

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Marco Atzeri
On 30/08/2016 09:44, lloyd.w...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A viewpoint on this whole Windows Ubuntu Frankenstein hybrid vs Cygwin thing: In comparison with the difficulties trying to build Geomview under 64-bit Cygwin, then discovering the piping issues that prevent it working with modules, using the W

RE: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread Schwarz, Konrad
> So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part > of Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. Thank you for your responses and sorry for the wording of my original post. I now understand the differences somewhat better. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-30 Thread lloyd.wood
A viewpoint on this whole Windows Ubuntu Frankenstein hybrid vs Cygwin thing: In comparison with the difficulties trying to build Geomview under 64-bit Cygwin, then discovering the piping issues that prevent it working with modules, using the Windows Ubuntu subsystem to install pre-existing Ubunt

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Andrew Schulman
> So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of > Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. For a previous discussion of this, see the thread starting at https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2016-04/msg00244.html. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/proble

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Schwarz, Konrad! > So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of > Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. Please don't start this flamewar again. The topic was discussed to death, use search. In short, the problem is that is an isolated subsystem.

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Keith Christian
Any software add-on which aims to "replace Cygwin" will have to address each and every use case for which Cygwin is currently chosen by so many users. Cygwin has made HUGE strides over the years and with every iteration improves our efficiency as we interact with Windows. (Thank you, Cygwin Maint

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Tim Prince
On 8/29/2016 7:15 AM, Ray Donnelly wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Schwarz, Konrad > wrote: >> So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of >> Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. >> > That seems a *little* inflammatory to me. Since Windows Su

Re: Windows Subsystem For Linux

2016-08-29 Thread Ray Donnelly
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Schwarz, Konrad wrote: > So I was wondering if the Windows Subsystem For Linux, apparently part of > Windows 10 Anniversary Update, obsoletes Cygwin. > That seems a *little* inflammatory to me. Since Windows Subsystem for Linux can't inter-operate with Windows v