Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Corinna Vinschen (Mon, 14 May 2007 14:18:35 +0200) > On May 11 19:24, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > * (Fri, 11 May 2007 19:25:01 +0200) > > > Actually I seriously resent that you trying to portrait me as a fool > > > who doesn't know what he doing. That coming from a visible member of > > > the Cygw

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 11 19:24, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > * (Fri, 11 May 2007 19:25:01 +0200) > > Actually I seriously resent that you trying to portrait me as a fool > > who doesn't know what he doing. That coming from a visible member of > > the Cygwin project will certainly keep any others from giving any > > u

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 05:23:33PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>AFAICT, I'm being consistent. Thank *you* for not sending another >>multi-page diatribe in response to statements of facts. > >After first starting the attack you can't keep peace?

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-12 Thread ls-cygwin-2006
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AFAICT, I'm being consistent. Thank *you* for not sending another > multi-page diatribe in response to statements of facts. After first starting the attack you can't keep peace? You got my answer by personal mail. If it satisfies you: I'm alread

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-12 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 11:07:48AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR >> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:52:33PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:56:21PM

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-12 Thread ls-cygwin-2006
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:52:33PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:56:21PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: For the Cygwin folks, it is really a good idea to have the preferred

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:52:33PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >> Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:56:21PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: For the Cygwin folks, it is really a good idea to have the preferred usage of the logo docu

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:52:33PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:56:21PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: >>> For the Cygwin folks, it is really a good idea to have the preferred >>> usage of the logo documented in an easily accessible lo

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:56:21PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: >> For the Cygwin folks, it is really a good idea to have the preferred >> usage of the logo documented in an easily accessible location. This >> long, drawn out, emotional thread has shown that nobody

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:56:21PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: >For the Cygwin folks, it is really a good idea to have the preferred >usage of the logo documented in an easily accessible location. This >long, drawn out, emotional thread has shown that nobody really knows >how someone can lega

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
[ - - words - - ] Try these http://www.redhat.com/software/cygwin/ http://www.uspto.gov/index.html (I didn't find anything under Cygwin or RedHat and the stuff I found searching for Cygnus was not related to this project at all). Also, http://www.registeringatrademark.com/trademark-law-basics.

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread ls-cygwin-2006
(Sorry if that arrives twice: My mail client is acting up and giving wrong sender addresses: I therefore send it again, since I don't see the first post arriving probably because of that. My general apology to all: That will be my last post to the list in that sorry affair and if Dave or Chr

RE: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Dave Korn
On 11 May 2007 19:34, ls-cygwin-2006 wrote: > "Dave Korn" writes: > >> On 11 May 2007 18:25, ls-cygwin-2006 wrote: >> >> [snip] >> > >> You need to get it in writing, from Redhat's legal dept. > > Fine. Even links to the Cygwin FAQ (if it had such a section touching > on the topic)? I'm a tad

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread ls-cygwin-2006
"Dave Korn" writes: > On 11 May 2007 18:25, ls-cygwin-2006 wrote: > > [snip] > > You need to get it in writing, from Redhat's legal dept. Fine. Even links to the Cygwin FAQ (if it had such a section touching on the topic)? I'm a tad surprised. > Nothing else is worth your time and effort.

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* (Fri, 11 May 2007 19:25:01 +0200) > Actually I seriously resent that you trying to portrait me as a fool > who doesn't know what he doing. That coming from a visible member of > the Cygwin project will certainly keep any others from giving any > useful hints on that topic in this thread, after y

RE: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread Dave Korn
On 11 May 2007 18:25, ls-cygwin-2006 wrote: [snip] You need to get it in writing, from Redhat's legal dept. Nothing else is worth your time and effort. To the best of my knowledge there has never been any discussion before of anything remotely like this issue on the mailing list. I think the

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-11 Thread ls-cygwin-2006
Dear Christopher Faylor, > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:13:12AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Nonetheless I continue to be thankful for anybody's input (esp. if I >>just missed a plainly visible and well known document on that topic >>somewhere). > > It is unclear to me what kind of insight y

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-10 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:13:12AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Nonetheless I continue to be thankful for anybody's input (esp. if I >just missed a plainly visible and well known document on that topic >somewhere). It is unclear to me what kind of insight you expect to get about matters like

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-10 Thread ls-cygwin-2006
"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> If I understand it right, Cygwin is trademark of redhat and the Cygwin >> logo is copyright protected. > > > > > > You should probably take this discussion to cygwin-licensing list. Ooops, yes thanks

Re: Trademark rights and copyright for "Cygwin" and logo.

2007-05-10 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > > If I understand it right, Cygwin is trademark of redhat and the Cygwin > logo is copyright protected. You should probably take this discussion to cygwin-licensing list. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc.