RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
> Gary, > > At 22:36 2003-03-04, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >... > > > > > >Jesus Juvenile Christ. > > > ^ > > > > > > >... > > > >Jesus's name is "profanity" nowadays? Come on. > > > From the Bookshelf 2000 dictionary: > > -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Randall R Schulz
Gary, At 22:36 2003-03-04, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: ... > >Jesus Juvenile Christ. > ^ > ... Jesus's name is "profanity" nowadays? Come on. From the Bookshelf 2000 dictionary: -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- pro·fane adjective 1. Marked by cont

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
I was going to just let this stand, but to 'bring closure' to issues raised in personal email: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:00:19AM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: > >Either one of us misunderstands the phrase "the sender", or > YOWTWYWT. Or you're > >trying to backpedal. > > Ok. Let me clarify

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Steve Fairbairn > > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "--LONG DISCLAIMER--"?.. > > Seems like a wonderful solution to me... > > ~Steve. > > --LONG DISCLAIMER-- Hmm... why not make it more general? /Hannu E

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Gerald S. Williams
I can't believe I'm actually chiming in on this one... If you add some sort of END marker, you might as well add a BEGIN marker of some sort as well, in case over-zealous corporate e-mail security-types get wind of what's going on. :-) Always be sure to point out that this isn't meant to defeat th

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 03 Mar 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > P.S. Note that we don't want to use "-- " as the separator > > string, unless we want to filter out people's signatures as > > well. > > That sounds like an excellent idea to me, or maybe just snip > ever

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:38:31PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > >On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: > > > >> > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " > >> > would be better... So, people,

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:38:31PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: > >> > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " >> > would be better... So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until >> > this is finalized.

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Habermann, David (DA)
How about --End of signature-- or --End of message-- ?? -- Joshua, Unfortunately, people with company disclaimers would probably prefer something without the word "IGNORE", lest they be misunderstood by overeager company watchdogs... Igor -- -- Unsubscribe info: http

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
--- Igor Pechtchanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: > > > > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " > > > would be better... So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until > > > this is finalized. > > > > I wo

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:39:57PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " >would be better... So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until >this is finalized. >Chris, would you like me to take a look at the filtering, or ar

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: > > Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " > > would be better... So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until > > this is finalized. > > I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I >

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
> Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " > would be better... So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until > this is finalized. I would prefer something without the word "DISCLAIMER" so that I could configure it to also remove non-disclaimer ads from cer

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
Except that now, on reflection, I think that "--LONG-DISCLAIMER-BELOW-- " would be better... So, people, don't change your signatures yet, until this is finalized. Chris, would you like me to take a look at the filtering, or are you already working on it? Igor On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Steve Fa

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Steve Fairbairn
> -Original Message- > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 March 2003 17:13 > > "--LONG DISCLAIMER--"?.. Seems like a wonderful solution to me... ~Steve. --LONG DISCLAIMER-- *** This email has originated fro

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:00:19AM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: >Either one of us misunderstands the phrase "the sender", or YOWTWYWT. Or you're >trying to backpedal. Ok. Let me clarify. I didn't actually read the disclaimer. In my addled mind I thought "notify the sender" meant notify th

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Dieter Meinert
ender about any failure. Regards Dieter |=> -Original Message- |=> From: Sam Edge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |=> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:29 PM |=> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |=> Subject: Re: Advocacy |=> |=> |=&g

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Sam Edge
Igor wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in gmane.os.cygwin on Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:49:05 -0500 (EST): > I believe the complaints were mostly about the *size* of the disclaimer, > not about its content. The content is reasonably standard and pretty > redundant, IMO. Which is why I proposed a way for peop

RE: Advocacy

2003-03-04 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
[snip] > I am sorry for suggesting that people should contact this company to > talk about the disclaimer. I thought that maybe if enough people contacted > the proper authorities they might be able to help institute a change. > I wasn't suggesting that anyone contact the original sender to compl

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
I wouldn't at all mind being able to put an --IGNORE-BELOW-- pre-footer in my emails, especially those sent from a certain free web-based email service. Their footer ads are not long but can be annoying. On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:23:33AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Does your corporate fire

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Citek
Hello Igor, At 04:49 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >I believe the complaints were mostly about the *size* of the disclaimer, >not about its content. The content is reasonably standard and pretty >redundant, IMO. Which is why I proposed a way for people to allow >filtering it out (

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Michael A Chase
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:22:16 -0800 (PST) "Peter A. Castro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:42:16AM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote: >>> I feel that you should review their responses to you, determine if they >>> are truely s

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Peter A. Castro wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:42:16AM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote: > > >> At my place of work, access to free e-mail websites is blocked, so the only > > >> e-mail I can send is via my official account.

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:42:16AM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote: > >> At my place of work, access to free e-mail websites is blocked, so the only > >> e-mail I can send is via my official account. This adds the disclaimer you > >> see at the bottom.

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:42:16AM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote: >> At my place of work, access to free e-mail websites is blocked, so the only >> e-mail I can send is via my official account. This adds the disclaimer you >> see at the bottom. I can't prevent that. You can ignore it very easily, an

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Sheridan, David wrote: Hi Sheridan, > I'm saddened to have to post this. After submitting a bug report (complete > with source code fix) about rsync, I've now been flamed by various members > of the list for having a disclaimer at the bottom of my e-mails. The flames > I recei

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Sheridan, David wrote: After receiving this abuse from list members, I'm unlikely to contribute anything further to cygwin, and will not report further bugs. If this is the behaviour the cygwin developers wish to encourage, you need to do nothing further. If you think it's a shame, please enco

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Randall R Schulz
David, Actually, I assumed it was out of your control. It seems it's usually in correspondence from employees of financial service industry firms that these disclaimers appear. Does your corporate firewall block all attempts to connect to SMTP servers (based on port number, I suppose) from int

Re: Advocacy

2003-03-03 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Sheridan, David wrote: > I'm saddened to have to post this. After submitting a bug report (complete > with source code fix) about rsync, I've now been flamed by various members > of the list for having a disclaimer at the bottom of my e-mails. The flames > I received were thoro

Re: Advocacy (Appologies Please)

2003-03-03 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> I'm saddened to have to post this. After submitting a bug report (complete > with source code fix) about rsync, I've now been flamed by various members > of the list for having a disclaimer at the bottom of my e-mails. The flames > I received were thoroughly sarcastic and accusatory, and suggeste