Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-22 Thread A . Alper Atici
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:16:03 -0400 (EDT), Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >> >> I plan to move all those files to a hidden dot-prefixed directory in >> root of the current drive/volume. Emulated POSIX API need to conceal >> that directory only. > >Note that this directory will be visible at the host OS (

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-22 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 21 14:10, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 01:16:03PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > >> ntea relies on a set of win32 functions available to NT family only. > > > >

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-22 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 21 13:29, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > On Apr 20 16:59, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > > the most part, all NTEA does is store some information (e.g., > > > > permissions, and, of late, owner)

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 13:29, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Apr 20 16:59, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > the most part, all NTEA does is store some information (e.g., permissions, > > > and, of late, owner) in a special file in the root directory. The only > > >

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-22 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 21 14:10, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 01:16:03PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > >> ntea relies on a set of win32 functions available to NT family only. > > > > > >Yes, but as I asked -- is that necessary? I mean,

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 01:16:03PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > >> ntea relies on a set of win32 functions available to NT family only. > > > >Yes, but as I asked -- is that necessary? I mean, if it will require a > >full rewrite of the ntea f

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 01:16:03PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >> ntea relies on a set of win32 functions available to NT family only. > >Yes, but as I asked -- is that necessary? I mean, if it will require a >full rewrite of the ntea functionality, then NT is certainly a >prerequisite. I don

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 20 16:59, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > Well, actually, I've always wondered -- what makes NTEA NT-specific? For > > It isn't. It's OS/2 specific. NT allows extended attributes for > OS/2 compatibility in the first place. Well, that's kind o

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, A. Alper Atici wrote: > {Too bad you guys are all top-posting. I hope I don't have to go > through moving chunks of text again.} Hey, I prefer to bottom-post myself, but when I come up against a top-posted message, I'm usually too lazy to move stuff around, so I "conform"...

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Bill C. Riemers
ROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > You can't expect me to just admit I was completely wrong... :) It turns out > the only version of Unix I can remember that allowed separate permissions > for

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Bill C. Riemers
Bill - Original Message - From: "Dennis McCunney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Bill C. Riemers'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:10 PM Subject: RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > > -Original Message--

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 20 16:59, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > Well, actually, I've always wondered -- what makes NTEA NT-specific? For It isn't. It's OS/2 specific. NT allows extended attributes for OS/2 compatibility in the first place. > the most part, all NTEA does is store some information (e.g., permission

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread A . Alper Atici
{Too bad you guys are all top-posting. I hope I don't have to go through moving chunks of text again.} Comments are inlined: >> > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >> > > 2) Alternatively, upon creating the first hard link the file could be >> > > renamed to some internal name (that sh

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Bill C. Riemers
. Bill - Original Message - From: "Corinna Vinschen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > On Apr 20 15:00, Bill C. Riemers wrote: > > One obvious thing hard l

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Bill C. Riemers
. Bill - Original Message - From: "Corinna Vinschen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > On Apr 20 15:00, Bill C. Riemers wrote: > > One obvious thing hard links

RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Larry Hall wrote: > At 03:02 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote: > >Replying to myself -- bad habits die hard... Just to dot all the "i"s and > >cross all the "t"s. > > > >One thing I forgot to mention is how to handle link counts. Those could > >be stored in, for example, the NTEA att

RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Larry Hall
At 03:02 PM 4/20/2004, you wrote: >Replying to myself -- bad habits die hard... Just to dot all the "i"s and >cross all the "t"s. > >One thing I forgot to mention is how to handle link counts. Those could >be stored in, for example, the NTEA attributes file for the original (or >the corresponding

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Apr 20 15:00, Bill C. Riemers wrote: > One obvious thing hard links allow is a way to have the same file with > different permissions. With a symbolic link you need both access > permissions for the symbolic link and actual file. i.e. > > ln -s /tmp/foo.exe /home/bcr/foo.exe > chmod ugo-x

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
csnyuedu> > To: cygwincom> > Cc: "Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)" niaidnihgov>; > "'A. Alper Atici'" ttnetnettr> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:02 PM > Subject: RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > > > Replying to myself -

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Bill C. Riemers
ROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'A. Alper Atici'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > Replying to myself -- bad ha

RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
link could do that the ordinary symbolic > > link cannot? (Sorry if this is a question with an obvious answer. I > > haven't had more than fleeting access to a system that would allow me to > > make hard links since 1988). > > > > -Original Message- > > Fr

Re: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Bill C. Riemers
Bill - Original Message - From: "Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'A. Alper Atici'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. > If y

RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
with an obvious answer. I > haven't had more than fleeting access to a system that would allow me to > make hard links since 1988). > > -Original Message- > From: A. Alper Atici > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:52 PM > To: cygwincygwincom > Subject: RFI: Emulating

RE: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-20 Thread Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)
ake hard links since 1988). -Original Message- From: A. Alper Atici Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RFI: Emulating hard links on FAT et al. Hello, I've been pondering over the prospects of emulating hard links for some time. List archives don&#x

RFI: Emulating hard links on FAT et al.

2004-04-19 Thread A . Alper Atici
Hello, I've been pondering over the prospects of emulating hard links for some time. List archives don't show much about it, and I have not come across any similar open implementation on the net. My rudimentary idea of emulating hard links is based on employing a new type of windows shortcut whi