Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-21 Thread Dave Korn
On 21/03/2010 07:16, Andy Koppe wrote: > Perhaps it would work Cygwin 1.5 actually, which you can install using > http://www.cygwin.com/setup-legacy.exe. Someone else would need to > confirm this, but I think that was still getting compiled for 586. To be precise, it was all i386 until the swit

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-21 Thread Dave Korn
On 21/03/2010 07:42, Scott Little wrote: > True, but I can tell the noisier advocates claiming open source can save > my old hardware to STFU ;) No, you can't actually. Every Linux distro comes in i386 as well as i686 flavours, which will run just fine on your old hardware - as you already kno

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-21 Thread Andy Koppe
Scott Little: >> Where do you get that idea from that CMOV is optional? Yes, there's a >> CPUID feature bit representing CMOV, but that's always set on the >> i686, its descendants, and compatible processors. Pre-Nehemiah C3s are >> not fully 686-compatible, simple as that. > > Old flamewars, eg. >

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-21 Thread Scott Little
> Where do you get that idea from that CMOV is optional? Yes, there's a > CPUID feature bit representing CMOV, but that's always set on the > i686, its descendants, and compatible processors. Pre-Nehemiah C3s are > not fully 686-compatible, simple as that. Old flamewars, eg. http://www.mail-archiv

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-21 Thread Andy Koppe
scott: > According to the internets... the C3 purports to be a i686-class > processor, and has MMX/3DNow, but does not have the supposedly optional > CMOV instruction that other processors of its class have.  Some people > managed to get i686 kernels to run, some didn't, depending on the distro. P

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-20 Thread Andy Koppe
scott: >>> According to the internets... the C3 purports to be a i686-class >>> processor >> Without CMOV or out-of-order execution, that seems a bit of a scam. > [snip] >> For gcc, "i686" implies the presence of the CMOV instruction, because, >> well, CMOV was introduced with the Intel 686 (aka Pe

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-20 Thread scott
>> According to the internets... the C3 purports to be a i686-class >> processor > Without CMOV or out-of-order execution, that seems a bit of a scam. [snip] > For gcc, "i686" implies the presence of the CMOV instruction, because, > well, CMOV was introduced with the Intel 686 (aka Pentium Pro).

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-20 Thread Andy Koppe
scott: >>> I'm attempting to install on a Via EPIA-5000 (533Mhz C3/Samuel 2) >>> without success... is this platform not supported? >>   Hmmm, quite likely not.  Everything in the Cygwin distro is compiled for >> i686 or above CPUs.  C3 is crippled, isn't it?  No SSE/MMX, all that stuff? > > Accord

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-20 Thread scott
>> I'm attempting to install on a Via EPIA-5000 (533Mhz C3/Samuel 2) >> without success... is this platform not supported? > Hmmm, quite likely not. Everything in the Cygwin distro is compiled for > i686 or above CPUs. C3 is crippled, isn't it? No SSE/MMX, all that stuff? According to the int

Re: Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-20 Thread Dave Korn
> Peoples, > > I'm attempting to install on a Via EPIA-5000 (533Mhz C3/Samuel 2) > without success... is this platform not supported? Hmmm, quite likely not. Everything in the Cygwin distro is compiled for i686 or above CPUs. C3 is crippled, isn't it? No SSE/MMX, all that stuff? > Using the

Cygwin vs Via C3: nothing happens, no output

2010-03-19 Thread scott
Peoples, I'm attempting to install on a Via EPIA-5000 (533Mhz C3/Samuel 2) without success... is this platform not supported? post-install, no Cygwin commands produce any output (not bad command or filename, just nothing at all), except cygcheck which will only print the help, any other option/fi