Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-11-12 Thread Brian Ford
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Dylan Cuthbert wrote: > Also, this may be a silly question, but why does it try to kill my cron jobs > when I log off from my user? Shouldn't they be running no matter what user > is logged in, and regardless of whether I log in or log off? They > definitely shouldn't be kil

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-11-11 Thread Dylan Cuthbert
Ok, well it wasn't 100% cured with the TTY flag removed but it stopped it being a 100% daily problem to an "every other day or so" problem (depends on the direction of the wind I think). Why does TTY affect the behaviour of rsync and cron jobs? Also, this may be a silly question, but why does it

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-11-04 Thread Dylan Cuthbert
Ok, removing tty from the CYGWIN variable allows me to log off and shutdown now. Why does the tty flag cause this kind of lock-up behaviour? Is there any reason I need the tty flag at all? If not I'll just leave it off permanently. - Q-Games, Dylan Cuthbert. http:

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-11-02 Thread Dylan Cuthbert
CYGWIN=tty is on in the system env vars, shall I switch it off, is this bad? I switched it on before I had this problem mind you, but maybe something in the post-Sept-19th version mixes badly with CYGWIN=tty? Yes, I understand the "root of the problem" problem (sic.), ie. the programming law that

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-11-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 12:29:53AM +0900, Dylan Cuthbert wrote: >Actually I think I did mention I was running rsync hourly in a cron job, >that's all I've been mentioning as far as I know. Which has nothing to do with selecting on pipes unless (and even this is pretty remote) you have turned on CY

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-11-02 Thread Dylan Cuthbert
Hi Chris, Actually I think I did mention I was running rsync hourly in a cron job, that's all I've been mentioning as far as I know. But anyway, this is 100% repeatable on my machine over the course of a day; try setting up a cronjob to run every hour that rsync's a gig or so of files over the in

RE: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-31 Thread Brian Kelly
> and my son would have a telephone in his room. Do you have a cordless phone? - Then your son has *already* had a phone in his room! > If this technique was uniformly useful then we'd have peace in the Middle > East Persistence has to be uniform, consistent, morally obvious, concretely defined

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:59:17AM -0500, Brian Kelly wrote: >Nevertheless, a few persistent reminders over a long period can have >the same effect as a very large number of complaints in close >proximity. > >There was once a great story in the Reader's Digest I think of some >prisoner somewhere wh

RE: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Brian Kelly
Brian Kelly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:14:36PM -0500,

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:14:36PM -0500, Brian Kelly wrote: >Thank you Bob Byrnes for this info and analysis. Perhaps it will >result in a solution to a long simmering problem. I use cygwin VERY >aggressively. A cron job launches a 20,000 line perl script (not >including CPAN modules by other a

Re: cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:44:54PM +0900, Dylan Cuthbert wrote: >This could explain my problems running rsync as a cronjob I don't remember you mentioning that you were sending large amounts of data over a pipe before. The only time this is a problem is when the pipe is full. And, yes, it is a k

RE: Cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Brian Kelly
Thank you Bob Byrnes for this info and analysis. Perhaps it will result in a solution to a long simmering problem. I use cygwin VERY aggressively. A cron job launches a 20,000 line perl script (not including CPAN modules by other authors) that does complex network automation tasks via multiple chai

Re: Cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Dylan Cuthbert
This could explain my problems running rsync as a cronjob and having the tasks hang for long periods of time (they do terminate eventually). Its a real pain when I try and log out or shutdown, as windows can't seem to forcibly terminate the tasks (because they are spawned by a SYSTEM task

Cygwin deadlocks due to broken select() when writing to pipes

2003-10-30 Thread Bob Byrnes
I have recently discovered that the Cygwin implementation of select() is broken (or at best incomplete): it incorrectly claims that file descriptors are *always* ready to write to pipes. That's bad, because when select() indicates that file descriptors are ready for writing (or reading), then it i