RE: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-28 Thread Pavel Fedin
Hello! > The "console" that a Cygwin program sees is not just the raw Windows > console. Hopefully the Cygwin version of ncurses understands that > Cygwin extends the functionality of the console so that a big subset of > standard control sequences will just work. I know this. But i was talkin

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-26 Thread Charles Wilson
On 7/26/2013 11:29 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 04:07:55PM +0400, Pavel Fedin wrote: Let me also drop my 5 cents into this... We should be very careful about this. At least there is one case where difference between Cygwin console and real Windows console plays a key ro

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 04:07:55PM +0400, Pavel Fedin wrote: > Hello! > >> I don't think that's fair, since such apps were designed for the >> Windows console, without being aware of Cygwin's pipe-based ptys. And >> unfortunately that list would be very long anyway: basically anything >> interactiv

RE: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-26 Thread Pavel Fedin
Hello! > I don't think that's fair, since such apps were designed for the > Windows console, without being aware of Cygwin's pipe-based ptys. And > unfortunately that list would be very long anyway: basically anything > interactive that hasn't been explicitly adapted to Cygwin ptys Let me also

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 05:44:02AM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >On 26 July 2013 05:14, Warren Young wrote: >> On 7/25/2013 17:06, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >>> >>> I might personally prefer to describe and list them differently. >> >> >> DONOPWOL: >> >> DOes >> NOt >> Play >> Well with >> Others >> L

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Warren Young
On 7/25/2013 22:44, Andy Koppe wrote: unfortunately that list would be very long anyway: basically anything interactive that hasn't been explicitly adapted to Cygwin ptys, Well, that gives me my example, anyway: c:\windows\system32\ftp.exe. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Andy Koppe
On 26 July 2013 05:14, Warren Young wrote: > On 7/25/2013 17:06, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >> >> I might personally prefer to describe and list them differently. > > > DONOPWOL: > > DOes > NOt > Play > Well with > Others > List I don't think that's fair, since such apps were designed for the Wind

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 7/26/2013 12:14 AM, Warren Young wrote: On 7/25/2013 17:06, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: I might personally prefer to describe and list them differently. DONOPWOL: DOes NOt Play Well with Others List Now doesn't that just roll off the tongue? ;-) -- Larry

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Warren Young
On 7/25/2013 17:06, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: I might personally prefer to describe and list them differently. DONOPWOL: DOes NOt Play Well with Others List -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://c

Re: BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 7/25/2013 6:36 PM, Warren Young wrote: I don't see any console programs on the BLODA. Shouldn't it include programs that break under Cygwin due to things like the change from Windows console to mintty, or the pty (?) work that improves Linux/POSIX semantics? Generally speaking, BLODA is a t

BLODA extension: console interoperability

2013-07-25 Thread Warren Young
I don't see any console programs on the BLODA. Shouldn't it include programs that break under Cygwin due to things like the change from Windows console to mintty, or the pty (?) work that improves Linux/POSIX semantics? Then there are the even older class of programs that didn't work right e