RE: 1.5 is coming... transient burp

2003-08-22 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Did a default update of all selected files under experimental. When it finished None of the post-install scripts ran. Bash was missing an entry point, __something (had it typed in a window, but closed it by accident). Did file search on cygwin1.dll to see if there were any duplicates: nope, but,

RE: 1.5 is coming... please test away!

2003-08-21 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Is there a changelog?...(good example from kernel at end of message (long/detailed) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elfyn McBratney > Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2003 7:41p > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 1.5 is coming... please test away!

RE: unexpected behavior: setup v2.340.2.5

2003-06-23 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> -Original Message- > From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sun, Jun 22, 2003 11:39a > I don't know what you mean by "beta". If you mean packages installed > when you press the "Exp" radio button in setup, then that's > how it works. > You pick "Exp" to install any experime

Weird error message? What does it mean?

2003-06-23 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
law> find / -name \*.lnk -exec grep -is "Documents and Settings" {} \; -print >/tmp/oldlinks find: /pagefile.sys: No such file or directory C:\bin\find.exe: *** WFSO timed out for after longjmp. I was trying to find all links that referenced "Documents and Settings", since I moved users to 'home'

unexpected behavior: setup v2.340.2.5

2003-06-22 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
When went to the software list (mirror kernel.org), I saw several pieces of software that I was a rev or so behind on. Out of curiosity, I thought I might also see what the newest beta's were. Problem is that it deselected all of the regular versions that needed updating. I would have expected t

is this known bug still known to be around? (re: rsync)

2003-06-22 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Often, after transfering a large number of files, rsync will hang when done (src + dst on same machine). I remember this being mentioned ages ago as a problem. It seems to still be around. Same as it ever was -- all files seem to be transferred, it just doesn't want to exit when done. (rsync:

RE: Bourne Shell Programming on Windows

2003-06-22 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randall R Schulz > TAM, > > Cygwin includes ash, BASH and pdksh (as well as zsh and tcsh), so the > answer is pretty much "yes," though with BASH you might want to > investigate its Bourne shell compat

RE: bash kills console history

2003-06-20 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I may be mis-understanding your question, but you have to be sure history is enabled on bash and you have HISTFILE set. CMD.EXE is a different shell with different history semantics. Under bash, I set 'vi' to 'on' to get get 'vi' compatible editing, but up/down arrow still work. You also have to

RE: getting cron to work -> status too large for sendmail?

2003-05-27 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
tc/passwd...?? Or does it switch UID's? thanks, linda > -Original Message- > From: Harig, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue, May 27, 2003 3:03p > To: linda w (cyg); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: getting cron to work -> status too large for sendmail

getting cron to work -> status too large for sendmail?

2003-05-27 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I was trying to get cron to work -- it looks like it is invoking something on a regular basis, however, it is also trying to send the 1 line of output of cron job to the owner. In the process it includes the entire environment (in this case of the user who started cron, me). It includes the envir

Is this expected behavior or a bug? perl 5.8, try to 'install Win32' under cpan"

2003-04-06 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Following, is the output. So since cygwin is trying to support a Posixy- linuxy-gnuy type environment, does that mean Win32 shouldn't work under Cygwin? Or should it, since Win32 underlies Cygwin? === cpan> install Win32 Running install for module Win32 Running make for G/GS/GSAR/libwin32-0.191

RE: bash bug report? Minor border case:

2003-03-30 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski > Sent: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 12:26p > To: linda w (cyg) > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: bash bug report? Minor border case: > > > Linda, > > I shan't delve into the

RE: bash bug report? Minor border case:

2003-03-30 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Is bash a cygwin app or a central part of the cygwin DLL? Guess bash must be part of cygwin. I always thought it was an app. Silly me. -linda > -Original Message- > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 5:22p > To: linda w (cyg)

bash bug report? Minor border case:

2003-03-29 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Valid filename created by app: \Documents and Settings\law\My Documents\win\registry2\regtweaks\Kellys_XP_Tweaks\download.com.com\clear\redx\c.gif-ts=-104976066&edId=3&prtnr=CNET+Networks,+Inc.& oid=3000-2094-10126096&ptId=3000&onId=2094&sId=4&asId=10126096&pId=10126096&asType=Product exactly 255

RE: compilercache may be helpful

2003-03-11 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
how is this different that 'ccache'? weird Has something changed in how exe files are looked up? I thought I used to be able to do a 'file /usr/bin/ccache' and have it work, but now it needs the ".exe" -- was I just confused in a linux kinda way? Linda > -Original Message- > Fr

RE: >/dev/stderr broken in /bin/sh?, makewhatis unhappy, & apropos confused, or just me?

2003-03-10 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Linux, /bin/sh == bash. On my system, at least, it's not dependant on bash -- they show up as softlinks to /proc/self/fd/{0|1|2}. > > > Maybe Cygwin should be renamed "CyNUX": "Cygwin is Not > > Unix or Linux"? :-) > > Pronoun

[Meta-info (non-cyg specific)] (RE: >/dev/stderr broken in /bin/sh?, makewhatis unhappy, & apropos confused, or just me?)

2003-03-10 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> Replies inline below. Incidentally, why did your message arrive twice > from two different "From:" addresses? And which should the > replies go to? --- One address is subscribed to the list, the other is not. Normally, if one responds to 'all', it goes to the OP and the list. If one ju

FW: >/dev/stderr broken in /bin/sh?, makewhatis unhappy, & apropos confused, or just me?

2003-03-10 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
.. > Igor --- So I take it that it doesn't give bogus output on your system... it's probably some file munged on my system somewhere...I'm alwayws messing something up ... always using things in ways they were never "intended" to be used... Tha

RE: Can someone explain the 'obvious' to me...or is it a Grimm's Bro. tale...?

2003-03-09 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> From: Gary R. Van Sickle > "%Program Files% => /usr/local/bin" would be a disaster > wrapped in a tragedy > wrapped in a thin candy shell. You'd have .exe's from Hell > to breakfast in > "Program Files", which is pretty contrary to normal Windows > practice. Well, "/opt" was my

>/dev/stderr broken in /bin/sh?, makewhatis unhappy, & apropos confused, or just me?

2003-03-09 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I normally use bash and this works in bash: echo "hello stderr" >/dev/stderr echo "hello stdout" >/dev/stdout But in /bin/sh: $ echo hello stderr >/dev/stderr cannot create /dev/stderr: directory nonexistent $ echo hello stdout >/dev/stdout cannot create /dev/stdout: directory nonexistent $ --

Can someone explain the 'obvious' to me...or is it a Grimm's Bro. tale...?

2003-03-09 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I really _think_ (maybe I don't know what I want), but I think I want to setup my cygroot -> c:\. Now I know this isn't recommended, but why/whynot? The only reason I heard, which sounded a bit weak, was, "Well what if some new program comes in and creates a /usr, /var, /tmp...etc TLD? Then it

RE: setup.exe is too small

2003-03-08 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> -Original Message- > Subject: Re: setup.exe is too small > > >It is indeed a natural assumption that the phrase "to demand that > >something be done" is addressed to me, that I was demanding that > >something be done. > , relax. And pay attention. The whole thread was > about people w

RE: find not finding everything?

2003-03-02 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> bash-2.05b$ find /cygdrive/d -name 'find.exe' > /cygdrive/d/cygwin/bin/find.exe > > What were you trying to find under your cygwin dir? Hmmmnow I'm not getting a duplication of the error... But i've seen updatedb terminate, *seemingly*, prematurely with a message: /usr/bin/find: . changed d

find not finding everything?

2003-02-17 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I notice that when I do a "find C:\\", or a find "/cygdrive/c", I don't get files under my cygwin dir. Why is that? I could imagine that it might judge them as separate file systems and might exclude them if I used "find -xdev...", but seems that /cygdrive/c or C:\\ should give whole disk? I

RE: Cannot get ^Z to suspend a program

2003-02-12 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> Job control and signals for Cygwin processes are areas pretty > internal to Cygwin. they are also pretty complex. IMO, it's > hard to talk much about adding some feature to them without the > context of what's already there. If you can put your suggestions > in that context, I expect you'

RE: Cannot get ^Z to suspend a program

2003-02-11 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> Sure, but those programs hook the key(s) in a global fashion, > not just > from individual programs. So, Cygwin could hook the Ctrl+Z key, but > what would it do then, how would it know which process to suspend? > > I'm not sure that cygwin could 'suspend' a non-cygwin process > even if it

strange mv behavior: mv

2003-02-11 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I stumbled onto this trying to rename a dir from "Mydir" to "mydir" (w/o capital "M") > mv Mydir mydir starts copying "Mydir" into Mydir/mydir. But it's not just the 'caps' that are the issue since: > mv mydir mydir will start copying mydir into itself On lnx, I get:

RE: Cannot get ^Z to suspend a program

2003-02-10 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Perhaps silly question, but, why not? > Cygwin cannot control how windows programs handle CTRL+Z. I have programs that seem to intercept keyboard keys for use as "hotkeys". Couldn't cygwin do something similar? curious... -linda -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simpl

RE: mean & grumpy (cygwin path analysis)

2003-01-12 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The TTY's have gotten fancier, but its still mostly ascii text in terminal windows >though it could be mean if it was a conspiracy...) :-) > > It is. Pblblblblt! > Igor --- --- originally it was "designed to be a perfect hu

Hindsite, moving forward, concepts...?

2003-01-11 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I've found that it's always easy to look back at a previously > made design decision and question it, especially when one > wasn't involved in the > design discussion that weighed the current needs with the > benefits and de

RE: Repost, different list...File::Spec, cygwin, Syntactic vs. Semantic path analysis

2003-01-10 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Interesting...wonder why they wouldn't just create pseudo devices in /dev and do the normal unix mount thing? Seems odd to complicate the simple namespace model needlessly by adding a special syntax. Even still, just because one wants to have more traditional unix names doesn't preclude the po

RE: Repost, different list...File::Spec, cygwin, Syntactic vs. Semantic path analysis

2003-01-09 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> Cygwin targets POSIX compatibility wherever possible. Any > discussion about paths that ignores the POSIX standards will > need to be reviewed with POSIX in mind. It's easier to do > that up front. --- What were the _original_ design goals of Cygwin -- i.e. as sponsored by "RedHat"?

RE: Repost, different list...File::Spec, cygwin, Syntactic vs. Semantic path analysis

2003-01-08 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> > Cygwin's primary purpose is to provide a UNIX environment for > Windows. Although it can be used in other ways, the basic > purpose is not to provide a stepping stone to helping port > programs to native Windows. Things like Win32 path names and > accommodating pure-win32 processes are > *

RE: Repost, different list...File::Spec, cygwin, Syntactic vs. Semantic path analysis

2003-01-07 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> From: Christopher Faylor > I am not clear on why we are devoting so much time to what is > required for a straight win32 environment in a cygwin mailing > list. As odd as it sounds, this seems somewhat off-topic to > me. Or at least uninteresting. === I'm sorry. I thought the cygwin

RE: Repost, different list...File::Spec, Cygwin, Syntactic vs. Semantic path analysis

2003-01-05 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> >So I think a fix could to change F::S::Win32 to convert all win32 > >pathseperators to unix pathseperators, and hand it off to F::S::Unix > >to do the actual catfile(), etc calls... > > Sounds fine, as long as we still do the right thing when > handed paths with backslashes in them (i.e. resul

File::Spec, Cygwin, Syntactic vs. Semantic path analysis is.

2003-01-03 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
A bit late to the party, I know, but wanted to chime in on the Cygwin File::Spec discussion. I'm 'cc'ing the cygwin list as a "heads up" for any interested parties. A more satisfactory mapping is to base "Cygwin" on Win32, not Unix. Cygwin, as an "OS interface" _partially_ supports posix mapping

RE: Perl pathname parsing, File::Spec, proposed fix

2003-01-03 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
full range of cygwin-supported filenames. Linda > -Original Message- > From: Gerrit P. Haase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: January 03, 2003 02:40a > To: linda w (cyg) > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Perl pathname parsing, File::Spec, proposed fix > > >

Perl pathname parsing, File::Spec, proposed fix

2002-12-30 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Does anyone see a problem with the following proposed change in the Perl lib dir? It seems the Win32 handles both forward and backward slashes and no special module for Cygwin is needed. Linda --- File/Spec.pm2001-08-21 17:16:14.0 -0700 +++ File/Spec.pm2002-12-30 18:08:

RE: 2 copies of perl includes?

2002-12-30 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> -Original Message- > From: Max Bowsher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > 5.8? Is that available in cygwin-x86? I don't recall it being an > > option on recent downloads, but I may have missed it. I do > have it on > > my gnunix systems though. > > As a test version. It will show in

RE: 2 copies of perl includes?

2002-12-30 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
ts. linda > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Matheson > Sent: December 30, 2002 04:01p > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 2 copies of perl includes? > > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, linda w (cyg) wrote: >

2 copies of perl includes?

2002-12-30 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I was searching for a perl module. "Locate" turned up 2 copies in: /lib/perl/5.6.1 and /lib/perl/5.6.1/cygwin-multi There are 469 identical objects between the two directories, 75 extra objects in "cygwin-multi", with only the parent's "pod" directory missing from the cygwin-multi dir. Pe

RE: Perl package File::Spec confused under cygwin

2002-12-28 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Hello Sören, > From Soren A > What you expected File::Spec to do perhaps seemed intuitive and > natural, === "Least surprise' is a valuable design principle. I try to design things knowing that 2-3 months from now I'll likely have forgotten all the details of why I did something a certai

RE: Perl package File::Spec confused under cygwin

2002-12-23 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
This may be somewhat arcane/tedious, but... > > But Unix does have a concept of a mount point (device) and > > path from the mount point. Conceivably, one could view the mount > > point itself as a local host name for the "volume" (local, > remote or a > > device) with path being loca

RE: Perl package File::Spec confused under cygwin

2002-12-21 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
> Note that Cygwin, like Unix, doesn't have a concept of > volume. Everything except network paths (//host/dir) are > based on a single root directory. --- But Unix does have a concept of a mount point (device) and path from the mount point. Conceivably, one could view the mount poi

Perl package File::Spec confused under cygwin

2002-12-20 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
File::Spec is supposed to provide a OS independent way of parsing and creating pathnames. For example, a 'splitpath' can product a volume $dir and $file. I'm not sure what constitutes a volume but I'd think C: D: would count as separate. Under cygwin, it only handles/parses unix pathnames but

RE: env cygwin, value=tty

2002-12-19 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Thanks! > The documentation was incorrect. Cygwin honors most of the > stty settings, even with CYGWIN=notty. Now about those other problems. Am I the only one that has this problem? or does no one try using remote displays or local combo of X and MS-Win Windows. -l -- Unsubscribe info:

x-display setting -> ssh problem

2002-12-18 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
I seem to have run into a problem. I have been trying to chase down a case where when I use 'ssh' from bash from cygwin (98 or XP), when I was pressing control-c, I lost the ssh session and ended back up at the local cygwin prompt. It's as if though the ssh session didn't trap the control-c. Now

unexpected control-c propagation to xterm children

2002-12-18 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
A problem, I notice with xterm's, I notice that if I start 'xterm&', then any control-c I press in the base window (running bash) is sent to all xterm children (but not grandchildren). Control-c _in_ an xterm seems to only be sent to the window one typed control-c into (as would be normally exp

env CYGWIN, value=tty

2002-12-18 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
A bit weird, but the CYGWIN env var says that if it doesn't contain "TTY", it will default to MS-DOS defaults of control-z for end of file yet I don't have CYGWIN set and control-d seems to work as my end-of-file while control-z does not. Is the documentation correct, or does the "

control-c problem...known bug?

2002-12-06 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Somehow, something I've done in my environment seems to cause a problem with control-c handling. A control-c gets sent to any sub-shells and right through 'ssh' -- very annoying: I tried the cygwin X server, but at the time it wanted to own the whole desktop and didn't behave in a civilized mann

RE: UNC paths are not supported. Defaulting to Windows directory [and side comment on lists]

2002-12-06 Thread linda w \(cyg\)
Hi, pretty new to the list though have been using cygwin for several months now, first under win98, and now under XP. This may have been covered elsewhere -- sorry, but I doubt I will have enough time to read all the archives of all the lists despite what the warnings say a