Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Blake
Eric Blake byu.net> writes: > Does the fact that MVFS is including the trailing NUL in fsname.Length, but > ro_u_mvfs is not, relevant to RtlEqualUnicodeString returning false, even > though the two Buffers are identical over their MaximumLength? > Sure enough, your patch plus this one-liner

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Karl M wrote: >> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:02:48 -0400 >> From: cgf >> Subject: Re: MVFS results >> >> >> I always just use the toggle switches on the front panel of my computer. >> >> Much easier. >> >> cgf >> > Do you prefer a pin or a bent paperclip to poke new holes in the paper tape? Paper

RE: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Karl M
> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:02:48 -0400 > From: cgf > Subject: Re: MVFS results > > > I always just use the toggle switches on the front panel of my computer. > > Much easier. > > cgf > Do you prefer a pin or a bent paperclip to poke new holes in the paper tape? ...Karl _

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:13:43PM +, Eric Blake wrote: >Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: >>Oh well. Ok, I planned to check this change in and let you then test >>from CVS. But since that's a problem for you, here's the patch. The >>important part is that Cygwin should now always create

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:19:10PM +, Will Parsons wrote: >Ralph Hempel wrote: >>Honestly, can we please not have every "sarcastic" answer interpreted >>as a personal slight? > >And it wasn't? You could have fooled me. Apparently I did. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/proble

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Will Parsons
Ralph Hempel wrote: > Will Parsons wrote: > > Is there no way of just creating the file without using crontab -e? Sure. I've been editing crontabs for years and have never once used crontab -e. What I do: crontab -l > crontab.lst edit crontab.lst crontab crontab.lst >>> I

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Blake
Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > Oh well. Ok, I planned to check this change in and let you then test > from CVS. But since that's a problem for you, here's the patch. The > important part is that Cygwin should now always create symlinks as > shortcuts on MVFS, regardless of the CYGWIN=w

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Ralph Hempel wrote: > Will Parsons wrote: > > Is there no way of just creating the file without using crontab -e? Sure. I've been editing crontabs for years and have never once used crontab -e. What I do: crontab -l > crontab.lst edit crontab.lst crontab crontab.lst >>> I

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > So this exception handler is installed as part of the Perl threads DLL > initialization. But appanrelty the address is not valid anymore when > leaving the DLL initialization. > Is it possible that we have to remove the exception handler before > dll_dllcrt0_1 returns?

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Will Parsons wrote: Is there no way of just creating the file without using crontab -e? Sure. I've been editing crontabs for years and have never once used crontab -e. What I do: crontab -l > crontab.lst edit crontab.lst crontab crontab.lst I always just use the toggle switches on the front

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Will Parsons
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:47:33PM +, Will Parsons wrote: >>Paul Mead wrote: >>>"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: >>> Not necessarily. You should be more successful with a Cygwin-enabled ed

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:47:33PM +, Will Parsons wrote: >Paul Mead wrote: >>"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: >> >>>Not necessarily. >>> >>> >>> >>>You should be more successful with a Cygwin-enabled editor, if you'd >>>prefer not to trac

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Will Parsons
Paul Mead wrote: > "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: > >> Not necessarily. >> >> >> >> You should be more successful with a Cygwin-enabled editor, if you'd >> prefer not to track down the permission issues with NT Emacs and Cygwin. > > I'd lov

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:55:52PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jul 16 17:47, Dave Korn wrote: >> Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> >> > And that's what I get in the Perl testcase: >> > >> > (gdb) x/xw 0x7efdd000 >> > 0x7efdd000: 0x0088ce68 >> > (gdb) x/2xw 0x0088ce68 >> > 0x88ce68:

Re: (gold star) Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:54:58AM -0400, Ralph Hempel wrote: Christoph Herdeg wrote: Hey what's up with you? Wasn't my message nice or informative enough for you? I thought my description would be helpful and you guys were interested in optimizing packages. Obviously

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 17:47, Dave Korn wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > And that's what I get in the Perl testcase: > > > > (gdb) x/xw 0x7efdd000 > > 0x7efdd000: 0x0088ce68 > > (gdb) x/2xw 0x0088ce68 > > 0x88ce68: 0x0088400c 0x6103ce20 <-- Cygwin exception handler > > (gdb) x

Re: perl-Tk is broken

2009-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Goetz
Thrall, Bryan wrote: > Wolfgang Goetz wrote on Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:03 AM: >> perl-Tk is broken in 1.5 and 1.7 >> $ widget ...NOK >> but is working under debugger control: >> $ ddd /usr/bin/widget (->Run ->Cont) ...OK > I've had similar problems; see > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-03/msg0

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul Mead wrote: > "Mark J. Reed" <...> writes: http://www.cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR > So I've managed to falteringly edit my crontab using vim (doesn't feel > right and I made loads of mistakes, so I've got to find out how to get > emacs working instead

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Mead
"Mark J. Reed" writes: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Paul Mead wrote: >> If not, how do I get it to use a different editor? I already have >> EDITOR=/bin/vim in my .profile and have tried /bin/vim.exe in case that >> was the problem. > > A couple quick things to check: > > 1. Make sure the E

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 17:15, Eric Blake wrote: > Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > Erm... it tries to use the recycle bin? Why? AFAICS, MVFS has the > > FILE_REMOTE_DEVICE device characteristic set, so it's logically always a > > remote drive and unlink_nt does not try to move the file to the recycle

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Paul Mead wrote: > If not, how do I get it to use a different editor? I already have > EDITOR=/bin/vim in my .profile and have tried /bin/vim.exe in case that > was the problem. A couple quick things to check: 1. Make sure the EDITOR variable is exported. Just se

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Christoph Herdeg" Great to see that at least you guys have fun and enjoy yourselves. I very hope to have "made your days". Thank you again for your superb help! You're great people! The way you answer to people seeking for help speaks for itself. I hope the

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Mead
"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: > Not necessarily. > > > > You should be more successful with a Cygwin-enabled editor, if you'd > prefer not to track down the permission issues with NT Emacs and Cygwin. I'd love to use whatever works, I'v

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Blake
Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > There are still issues trying to delete open files, where readdir() > > and stat() still see the file after it has been deleted, but utimes() > > and open() fail because it has been marked for deletion. Do you need > > an strace() of the rm and what it at

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Paul Mead wrote: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: ^ . Spammers->Don't feed. Thanks. Paul Mead wrote: OK, now that I appear to have sorted my permissions out in general, I still have a problem creatin

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Mead
"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: > Paul Mead wrote: >> OK, now that I appear to have sorted my permissions out in general, I >> still have a problem creating crontab. >> >> I run crontab -e and it fires up emacs (my editor of choice) but can't >> create the crontab file becuase the temp version is u

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Paul Mead wrote: OK, now that I appear to have sorted my permissions out in general, I still have a problem creating crontab. I run crontab -e and it fires up emacs (my editor of choice) but can't create the crontab file becuase the temp version is unreadable. I also tried to open it using anot

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 16:25, Eric Blake wrote: > Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > > > > For instance, maybe it chokes on the sharing flags. I'd try with > > > > FILE_SHARE_VALID_FLAGS instead of just FILE_SHARE_DELETE. > > Nope, still chokes on FILE_SHARE_VALID_FLAGS with access denied. Too bad.

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 06:12:20PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jul 15 21:42, Dave Korn wrote: >> ... get the head pointer: >> >> (gdb) x/xw 0x7ffde000 >> 0x7ffde000: 0x0022ce68 >> >> ... on the stack, as you might expect, and walk the chain, first word of each >> record is the 'next' p

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 06:36:14PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >Other than that, the script was originally a help for the normal Joe and >Jane User, not for company admins which should basically know what they >are doing. If you want ssh-host-config to become a kitchen sink for all >environment

Re: Any solution to this build problem?

2009-07-16 Thread Jacob Jacobson
Pedro Izecksohn wrote: --- Jacob Jacobson wrote: Perhaps this went unnoticed. Reposting it. I am still having problems building cygwin dll. Has anyone seen this error? Getting close here. Apparently gets to the linking phase. Please help with error below. [build$:618] (../src/configure --pref

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 18:14, Christoph Herdeg wrote: > Great to see that at least you guys have fun and enjoy yourselves. I very > hope to have "made your days". Thank you again for your superb help! You're > great people! > > The way you answer to people seeking for help speaks for itself. I hope the > googl

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > And that's what I get in the Perl testcase: > > (gdb) x/xw 0x7efdd000 > 0x7efdd000: 0x0088ce68 > (gdb) x/2xw 0x0088ce68 > 0x88ce68: 0x0088400c 0x6103ce20 <-- Cygwin exception handler > (gdb) x/2xw 0x0088400c > 0x88400c: 0x

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Blake
Eric Blake byu.net> writes: > $ touch foo > touch: cannot touch `foo': Permission denied > $ exec 6 bash: bar: Permission denied I merged two different tests into one summary; this particular command should have read: $ exec 6 $ exec 5<&- At which point, trying again gives: $ exec 6http://cy

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Blake
Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > > For instance, maybe it chokes on the sharing flags. I'd try with > > > FILE_SHARE_VALID_FLAGS instead of just FILE_SHARE_DELETE. Nope, still chokes on FILE_SHARE_VALID_FLAGS with access denied. > Another idea would be that the MVFS driver refuses the

Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Mead
OK, now that I appear to have sorted my permissions out in general, I still have a problem creating crontab. I run crontab -e and it fires up emacs (my editor of choice) but can't create the crontab file becuase the temp version is unreadable. I also tried to open it using another editor by was d

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Christoph Herdeg
Great to see that at least you guys have fun and enjoy yourselves. I very hope to have "made your days". Thank you again for your superb help! You're great people! The way you answer to people seeking for help speaks for itself. I hope the google bots to be very attentative so you won't be bothere

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 15 23:01, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 04:07:23AM +0200, Reini Urban wrote: > >2009/7/15 Steven Hartland: > >> This may or may not help: > >> > >> According to VC++ debugger it always dies with: > >> Unhandled exception at 0x610d089d in perl.exe: 0xC005: Access vio

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 15 21:42, Dave Korn wrote: > ... get the head pointer: > > (gdb) x/xw 0x7ffde000 > 0x7ffde000: 0x0022ce68 > > ... on the stack, as you might expect, and walk the chain, first word of each > record is the 'next' pointer, second is the handler function: > > (gdb) x/2xw 0x0022ce68 > 0x22

Re: Username hassles

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Mead
"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: > > 'setup.exe' installs files with the user name of the user that invoked > 'setup.exe' so depending on who you update your Cygwin installation as, > you may need to do this again. Obviously, it would be preferable to do > the updates as the same user as you want t

Re: Autogen status?

2009-07-16 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 16/07/2009 09:35, Dennis Wassel wrote: I'd be glad for any pointers, or any working version of autogen to get the testsuite running. Cygwin Ports includes a build of autogen, with patches for the very errors you are seeing. You can either build it yourself with cygport: http://cygwin-por

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 13:58, Eric Blake wrote: > Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > For instance, maybe it chokes on the sharing flags. I'd try with > > FILE_SHARE_VALID_FLAGS instead of just FILE_SHARE_DELETE. > > > > Btw., it's very helpful to observe what happens exactly using > > sysinternal's pro

Re: Username hassles

2009-07-16 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Paul Mead wrote: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: And the problem is that you want the files installed by Cygwin's "setup.exe" to use "paul" instead of "MEAD8998". Yeah, that will happen because "setup.exe" is a Windows program and is going to use the Windows SID of the user installing it. If y

(gold star) Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:54:58AM -0400, Ralph Hempel wrote: >Christoph Herdeg wrote: >> Hey what's up with you? Wasn't my message nice or informative enough for >> you? I thought my description would be helpful and you guys were interested >> in optimizing packages. Obviously I am wrong: > > > >

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christoph Herdeg wrote: Hey what's up with you? Wasn't my message nice or informative enough for you? I thought my description would be helpful and you guys were interested in optimizing packages. Obviously I am wrong: I'm not sure how cgf and Corinna manage to move let alone type with the t

Autogen status?

2009-07-16 Thread Dennis Wassel
Hi list, I have built a cygwin version of gcc trunk these days and would like to run the testsuite, which needs autogen. Google and this list show some hits that other people have had problems building autogen, but I found this message http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-01/msg00523.html so in pr

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Christoph Herdeg
Hey what's up with you? Wasn't my message nice or informative enough for you? I thought my description would be helpful and you guys were interested in optimizing packages. Obviously I am wrong: I really can't believe your behaviour. "border case" - I don't know what to say...that's simply incredib

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Eric Blake
Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > Basically, the NtOpenFile took over execution (I'm guessing that it triggered a > > fault handler, which interfered with single stepping?). My next attempt: > > Hmm. > > STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED. But why? > > > Not exactly. If I had MVFS here, I'd try

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 14:01, Christoph Herdeg wrote: > ssh-host-config and all other associated scripts and tools should in my > opinion be fully aware of all these states; currently they are not. If you http://cygwin.com/acronyns/#SHTDI http://cygwin.com/acronyns/#PTC > need machines for testing, I can prov

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 05:30, Marc Girod wrote: > > > Corinna Vinschen-2 wrote: > > > > Been there. It's a remote trial over Web Browser for 3 hours. > > That's not exactly helpful. Oh well. > > > > The other option is the source code for linux. > It is Open Source. > > I can find it from my release are

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Marc Girod
Corinna Vinschen-2 wrote: > > Been there. It's a remote trial over Web Browser for 3 hours. > That's not exactly helpful. Oh well. > The other option is the source code for linux. It is Open Source. I can find it from my release area (since I do not have a linux client): /cc/releaseArea/v

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Ralph Hempel wrote: > [ snip ] Sorry, I failed to properly TITTTL the address. Followups set. cheers, DaveK -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info:

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Christoph Herdeg
From: Corinna Vinschen

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/r/rcc/?S_TACT=105AGX28&S_CMP=DLMAIN Been there. It's a remote trial over Web Browser for 3 hours. BWAAhahahahhhaahahaa! Remote trial in a web browser? For 3 hours? Are they kidding? It's like som

Re: 1.7.0-51: Problem using ssh public/private key authentication

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 12:20, Michael H. wrote: > Hello, > > When I am using cygwin 1.5 both the public/private key and the > keyboard authentication with ssh work without problems. On 1.7 > keyboard authentication also works but public/private key > authentication produces following error on the machine which

1.7.0-51: Problem using ssh public/private key authentication

2009-07-16 Thread Michael H.
Hello, When I am using cygwin 1.5 both the public/private key and the keyboard authentication with ssh work without problems. On 1.7 keyboard authentication also works but public/private key authentication produces following error on the machine which I use to connect to the server (client is Linu

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jul 16 02:19, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> How do I get MVFS on my system for testing? >> That would involve getting and installing IBM/Rational's Clearcase and >> get a valid license. They are quite expensive (like $4600 for a single >> lice

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 02:19, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> How do I get MVFS on my system for testing? > That would involve getting and installing IBM/Rational's Clearcase and > get a valid license. They are quite expensive (like $4600 for a single > license), however, you could proba

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 10:42, Dave Korn wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > > > Btw., *everybody* can test on Windows Server 2008: > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B6E99D4C-A40E-4FD2-A0F7-32212B520F50 > > Ooh, that's handy. Perhaps more relevant: the R2 candidate? > > http:

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Dave Korn
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Btw., *everybody* can test on Windows Server 2008: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B6E99D4C-A40E-4FD2-A0F7-32212B520F50 Ooh, that's handy. Perhaps more relevant: the R2 candidate? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Corinna Vinschen wrote: How do I get MVFS on my system for testing? That would involve getting and installing IBM/Rational's Clearcase and get a valid license. They are quite expensive (like $4600 for a single license), however, you could probably get an evaluation license. See http://www.i

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 15 22:03, Eric Blake wrote: > Corinna Vinschen cygwin.com> writes: > > This is really weird. The R/O flag *is* supported, the SYSTEM flag > > isn't. I assume the HIDDEN flag isn't either, but that's a minor > > problem. > > You are correct, 'attrib +h' has no effect. I also suspect that

Re: perl threads on 2008 R2 64bit = crash ( was: perl 5.10 threads on 1.5.25 = instant crash )

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 04:21, Reini Urban wrote: > 2009/7/16 Reini Urban: > > 2009/7/15 Steven Hartland: > >> This may or may not help: > >> > >> According to VC++ debugger it always dies with: > >> Unhandled exception at 0x610d089d in perl.exe: 0xC005: Access violation > >> reading location 0x0004. > >

Re: How to activate new fstab mount points under 1.7?

2009-07-16 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 15 22:29, Steven Hartland wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" >>> Any I missing something or has this functionality just been >>> overlooked? >> >> Overlooked == not implemented. > > ;-) > > Something that's planned? Not yet. I added it to my TODO list but do

Re: Username hassles

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Mead
"Larry Hall (Cygwin)" writes: > > And the problem is that you want the files installed by Cygwin's "setup.exe" > to use "paul" instead of "MEAD8998". Yeah, that will happen because > "setup.exe" is a Windows program and is going to use the Windows SID of > the user installing it. If you prefer