d for
surfing the web is probably the single most common misconception about
assistive technologies. They can and do interface to IE and Firefox, but
they are used for a lot more than that.
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actually working on
after 40 minutes. If you're using Windows already you can also do
this using Virtual PC from Microsoft - it's now free to download.
Of course, in both cases, you'll need a Windows install disc to
create the original disk image.
HTH
ot;[85] BaseChar ::= [#x0041-#x005A]" (continues
at length...)
Where #x0041-#x005A denotes the characters A to Z.
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t way we won't see it.) It's much better to post a link
to the problematic page so people can test with the precise content that
you're having problems with.
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"CSS 2.1 does not define which properties apply to form controls and frames,
or how CSS can be used to style them. User agents may apply CSS properties
to these elements. Authors are recommended to treat such support as
experimental."
<http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/conform.h
erpreted,
> right?). It still sounds like an invitation to use the "x y" order :)
Although "top 5%" is invalid, that's only because the horizontal position
must come first if one of the values is not a keyword; so &quo
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> Although "top 5%" is invalid, that's only because the
> horizontal position
> must come first if one of the values is not a keyword;
> so "5% top" or "left
>
as everything else.
The best thing you can do, if you have it working in IE 6, is to throw it
away and start again. Trying to go in the direction of getting IE
6-compatible CSS to work in proper browsers is the road to insanity.
uld see, they realised that
it was better to work to the limitations of the destination technology,
rather than show the client beautifully smooth designs which were not, in
reality, achieveable in a web browser on Windows.
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> technology,
> >>rather than show the client beautifully smooth designs
> which were not, in
> >>reality, achieveable in a web browser on Windows.
>
> Thats a very good idea, I will suggest it, I think it'll go
> down like a lead
> balloon
aying that, even if the colour was changed using a
"!important" rule elsewhere (which would be the only way to override the
specificity of that attribute), that DOM property would remain unchanged,
because it reflects what was in the page source, not the computed style.
R
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need the
colspan="2" attribute.
...
...
...
...
should do it.
But you shouldn't use tables for layout. Use CSS: the list wiki will
help you find the resources where you can learn how to do a simple
header/two columns
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> But you shouldn't use tables for layout.
Ah, just seen your earlier post about this being for an HTML
newsletter; forget what I said. For HTML email, it looks like we're
stuck with tables for the foreseeable future.
Incid
reconsider their position. Version 2.0.4 will be around for quite
some time to come. Yet another browser to support...
Oh, link for those interested: <http://nightly.webkit.org/>
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ld have been reporting bugs,
not devising workarounds which were redundant in the finished
product. It's the same with Safari 3; the time to start testing _our_
work is when the final version is released. Until that date we are
testing _Apple'
ttp://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins>
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On 27 Sep 2007, at 14:40, Mark Story wrote:
> Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
>> On 27 Sep 2007, at 14:04, Scott Povlot wrote:
>>> If I don't have a border, what is the difference
>>> between using padding or margin to add space around an
>>> element? Is there an
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#fred[id="fred"]| 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | = 110
as 110 is greater than the 100 of #fred.
Phew! Fun stuff, CSS, ain't it? :-D
> am i just a complete fool and i'm doing something obviously wrong?
Not a fool, and not _obvio
uld cause the problem you are encountering.
You could use one of the usual methods, preferably a conditional
comment, to give IE6 "height: 400px;" as IE 6 treats "height" as "min-
height".
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than a rule with a selector, 0 otherwise (= a) (In HTML, values of an
element's "style" attribute are style sheet rules. These rules have
no selectors, so a=1, b=0, c=0, and d=0.)"
<http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#specificity>
So the style attribute
your editor; even IE doesn't have _that_ degree of a
problem parsing CSS.
Assuming your editor isn't so cheeky as to auto-correct it (pun
inevitable, I'm afraid) to something else, it won't be a problem.
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Absolute and relative font-size keywords, CSS 2.1:
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t;
Probably a more reliable way of communicating with them than expecting
them to go off and check somebody else's wiki every day on the offchance
there's something new there :-)
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ry sensibly) they drew on that body of existing and
known-good code for the work on IE 8, and this CSS-comment -parsing bug
has crept in along with the good stuff?
Just a thought...
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the most common word spacing was a thick, or 1/3 of an
em - 0.33em should be accurate enough :-)
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e can make to the web
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Explorer 5 was in fact the only decent browser on the market -
the intention was to allow fallback content for such lesser browsers as
Netscape 3 and 4. Now that the roles are reversed, simply read "downlevel"
as "uplevel" and vice ve
ng can display any less than one pixel anyway - a pixel is an
indivisible thing, so you should just set the size of the border to be 1px
- either the browser will round it up to 1px or round it down to 0px, when
it becomes invisible.
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Even if you specify your font sizes in pixels, every browser other than IE
will scale them up if the user hits Ctrl+ (and down with Ctrl-). In
addition, a user who has set their minimum font size to be, say, 16px
won't see your 9px and 14px text at
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but working
in the browser, it's the browser whose notions get enforced.
Opera has a minimum font size enabled by default, so playing with 1px
text is never going to work with the default settings in that
browser. This is why most people recommend using other techniques.
R
per had been involved in implementing
that bit of code, and automatically used the English spelling. As a
result, browsers nowadays support both "lightgrey" and "lightgray"
for backwards compatibility... although none of those extended colour
names appear in any formal s
On 30 Mar 2007, at 14:26:14, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
> * Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
>> Incidentally, the "gray"/"grey" issue isn't helped by the fact that
>> Netscape Navigator had an extensive list of colour names, which
>> included both "gray"
6 applies the rule; and the
final comment lets IE Mac see whatever comes after. Have a look in the
list wiki under Tan hack and star-html hack for more info.
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you don't see it
unless loading from the server (network latency).
Hope this helps you work out what direction to seek a solution in,
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nd. Big John said he
> was
> still experiencing it. Is that still true after my latest change, John.
> Anyone else seeing the flicker in FF?
>
Looks fine at this end - no flicker at all.
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suse of tables to achieve presentational
goals. Table elements are there for the purpose of displaying tabular
data, so if your data is tabular, use a table at that point on your page.
That way your markup is semantically sound.
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is, if anything, _adding_ semantic information to the markup, which is as
it should be.
As Albert Einstein said in his early career as a web developer, "Markup
should be as simple as possible, but no simpler." The extra classes have
relevant names, so you shouldn'
which I
could derive one scintilla of information in yonks, but if they'd sent
plain text, I probably would have glanced through it :-)
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ther, but I'm at work and really
should be concentrating on something else, so I'll leave that as an
exercise for the reader :-)
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> ...
>
IE Win, for reasons unknown, treats even an empty element as being one
line high. To fix it, apply:
font-size: 0;
and the gap closes up.
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ands out at the bottom of the
> browser, even though there isn't enought content to populate the entire
> screen? And _should_ there be more than enough content, it should just
> drop the footer to the end of the content.
>
Have a look at
http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspecti
> Sorry I'm not helping you further, but I'm desperate to leave
> work right now.
Enjoy your evening :-)
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Thus, authors
may use these elements in conjunction with style sheets, the lang
attribute, etc., to tailor HTML to their own needs and tastes."
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#edef-SPAN>
So I'd say don't worry about i
wser setting to check "Automatically" (Tools menu >
Internet Options dialog > General tab > Temporary Internet Files fieldset
> Settings... button) and see if that fixes it. If so, you can relax, as
this is the default setting, meaning 99% of visitors won't
then the h1 will have margins of 14 pixels, not 10. Personally, I find
having the 10px base size so useful in specifying the structure of the
page that I don't mind reaching for the calculator occasionally when
dealing with that kind of case, b
in the right direction:
<http://positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/appendix/holygrail>
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Supported by evo
, prevents one
tehcnology being dependant on another for correct operation.
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k you once again for offering to help.
You might want to have a look at Dan Cederholm's new book "Bulletproof Web
Design", which addresses exactly this kind of issue.
>
> Isn't this list great :)
Works for me :-)
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reload the page the flicker should have vanished.
This is mentioned in the notes to Sliding Doors 2, BTW:
<http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors2/>
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I assume it is :-)
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. After all, that's what they're for;
they're only evil when used for just about any purpose other than yours
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l me I am overlooking something.
>
Published today, at Drew McLellan's "24 ways to impress your friends":
"Centered Tabs with CSS by Ethan Marcotte. Enjoy!
<http://24ways.org/advent/centered-tabs-with-css>
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) and IE (Win and Mac, IIRC) there
is a default border on images within links, apparently to maintain
compatibility with the behaviour of browsers back to Netscape 2 and IE 3
(and probably even earlier). Adding
a img {
border-style: none;
}
should fix things.
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image/hope it
> would have no effect.
>
No, lists (ol, ul and dl) are defined as block level elements. Check the
HTML 4 DTD:
<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html>
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>
> Is this a known bug? I've got a colleague who has a series of DIVs as
> follows:
>
This is the IE duplicate characters bug, described in detail at:
<http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html>
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7;s perfectly happy to scroll sideways;
he just appreciates being able to see and read the site as nature (and the
deisgner) intended. He sees the entire world through a very narrow
viewport anyway, so why should he be bothered by a scrollbar?
Just my 0.02GBP...
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tever site you're on, click the link
and it will display "BackCompat" for quirks mode, and "CSS1Compat" if the
page is in standards mode (assuming JavaScript is enabled in the browser).
This also works in Firefox (but probably not in Op
on those pages
and use either
#superfluous {
visibility: hidden;
}
or
#superfluous {
display: none;
}
as appropriate.
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entirely down to how the browser maps real-world measurements like pt, in
and cm to the output device - see the discussion of "absolute length
units" at [1].
[1] <http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#length-units>
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IDs per element. I would suggest that the lack of specific exclusion of
multiple IDs per element in HTML 4.01 is an oversight in the specs.
[1]<http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.10>
[2]<http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru
And now I see your retraction (sigh).
Ah well, maybe having the links in the archive will be of value if this
discussion ever comes up again :-)
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[2] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/loosedtd.html>
[3] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html>
[4] <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xml-20040204/#dt-doctype>
[5] <http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Liberty%21_Equality%21
htc
which ought to do it. (I don't have a server at hand to test on, but it
looks about right.)
A longer term solution is to modify server.conf; speak to the web server
administrator about that.
I'll stop now as this is distinctly off topic for the list,
HTH,
Nick.
the
> margin (with or without padding or borders) IE needs more container
> width.
>
Dan,
There's a good chance you're seeing the IE doubled float margin bug,
described (with workaround) at:
<http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html>
> Regarding the following:
> "How could you do this? AFAIK IE7b2 isn't out yet..."
>
> I beg to differ
> http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/01/23/67996-windows-ie7-beta-leaked-14-new-screenshots
Forwarding a link to an invitation-only site isn't actually that
helpful... unless you were invitin
means the cell should remain as a , because it is a table data cell.
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at your code is valid can help you catch errors like this; see
<http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CodeValidation>
in the list wiki.
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have stuff get zoomed on future
browsers which support it (or on IE), so zoom it by a factor of 1. In
other words, replace
height: 1%;
with
zoom: 1;
and all will be well. (Well, it is for me...)
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> http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/ie7b2_prscrollbar.html
>
> This bug is new, I think,
>
> Can anyone please confirm in IE7b2, the fix in IE7b2, and the absence of
> the bug in IE6?
>
Looks OK (i.e. no scrollbar) on IE6, Win 2k
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uot;Working around overflow:visible default
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thod='crop');
}
#imageContainer img {
filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(opacity=0);
}
which makes the image 100% transparent, allowing the
pseudo-background-image applied to the containing element to show through.
I really must write all thi
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knowledge, and is therefore worthless.
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t is longer than the window there is no scrollbar at all.
Sounds like the unscrollable content bug:
<http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/unscrollable.html>
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elieve me, I've seen the consequences of that mistake, and you
don't want to make it.
[Ref. 1]
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see, there aren't enough comments/hidden elements etc. in
your page to cause the PiE bug.
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otocol (which I presume is
what you mean). I always do my development using http, and I had the same
issues with IE-Mac.
For images, one trick is to use the "View image" (or whatever it says)
context menu item, then force a proper reload, then hit the back but
ail clients don't mistake the (bracketed) stuff
in the previous paragraph for smileys; the images displayed could be
horrendous...)
[1] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#type-id>
[2]
<http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=index.htm&FP=/content/products/weblogic>
HTH,
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tell, as I don't know of any way to
> resolve it.
>
This happens on developers' machines but normal people don't see it. See
<http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/66818>
in the list archives.
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>>> Mikhail Bozgounov wrote:
>>>> Just a general question concerning CSS rollovers:
>>>>
>>>> You remember, that in *some cases* IE tries to download a CSS
>>>> image background EVERY TIME you mouse over the link
> Oops, spoke too soon. Indeed, the effect is gone when I set my IE
> to check for new versions of pages on "automatic". So, all those
> people causing these many lines in my log were developers?
> Possible I guess.
>
> Thanks for the explanation, and sorry for the too quick reply :-)
>
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r the
high-traffic, non-technical commercial site I'm currently working on.
If IE5/Win is important to you (which your site's user agent stats can
tell you) then go for the traditional Holly Hack with "height: 1%;" and
use conditional comments to make su
nd I'm still at work
;-)
But seriously, do persevere; I must have spent a couple of years really
getting my head round CSS, but finally I can (most days) get it to do what
I want.
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Oh, I should point out that the "clear: both;" in the .myBit rule was just
to get my stuff on a level playing field beneath your bit; if you want to
float several such boxes next to each other, you'll want to remove it:
>
> .myBit {
> clear: both; <-- You probably don't want this
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>
Sounds like the IE 3 pixel text jog:
<http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html>
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should point you to the answer: you are using "li" where you apparently
meant "div" on your "search" section.
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display as block anyway, so there's no
need to explicitly add that.
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view-of-mix06-release/>
have already shown that it fixes a large number of the problems people are
reporting in the Beta Preview.
So don't worry about it. Just send your bug report via one of the
mechanisms described on the IE Team blog:
<http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/01/31
ounds so many, I don't see any
redundancy myself.
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ght: 100%;
}
#nonFooter
{
position: relative;
min-height: 100%;
}
* html #nonFooter
{
height: 100%;
}
#footer
{
position: relative;
margin-top: -7.5em;
}
which seems like a pretty simple template with layout CSS and no element
styling :-)
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m;
background-color: #600;
height: 7.5em;
}
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