On 10/13/99 at 7:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) wrote:
> Why not refrain in the *expectation* that it'll be done incompetently? If
> previous efforts along these lines (Clipper, TACDFIPSFKMI) are anything to go
> by then:
>
> - The design and planning process alone will cost enough
At 04:05 14/10/1999 , Declan McCullagh wrote:
> Net Wiretapping: Yes or No?
> by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> 10:30 a.m. 13.Oct.99.PDT
> The FBI says the Internet's standards
> body
So was the Raven list created on 11-Oct-1999 as seems to be the case given
that the..
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/raven/current/
..archive apparently begins there? (keep clicking on [next page] till it
doesn't work any more)
Does it map to any particular working group or
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Allen Ethridge writes:
> On 10/13/99 at 7:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) wrote:
>
> > Why not refrain in the *expectation* that it'll be done incompetently?
> > ...
> >
> > If they want to play big brother, why not give them more than enough rope,
> >
At 09:30 AM 10/14/99 +1000, James Robertson wrote:
>As an Australian, I am more than a little concerned
>that an American law enforcement agency is trying
>to dictate the design of an international communication
>standard.
But hey, its *our* internet. I mean, Al Gore invented it,
you know.
>Doe
James Robertson writes:
Boy, things are really heating up on [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're not
there, you're missing something.
> As an Australian, I am more than a little concerned
> that an American law enforcement agency is trying
> to dictate the design of an international communication
>
On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 03:08:49PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> But it's also clear that folks who manufacture this gear for sale in
> the U.S. market are going to have to support CALEA, which in turn
> means that someone is going to have to standardize the interface --
> the FBI regulations
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Reid writes:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 03:08:49PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> > But it's also clear that folks who manufacture this gear for sale in
> > the U.S. market are going to have to support CALEA, which in turn
> > means that someone is going to
At 14:25 10/14/1999 -0700, Steve Reid wrote:
>I'm no lawyer, so I'm probably going out on a limb here, but I don't
>think CALEA can apply to encryption.
Steve, no need to go out on a limb. CALEA most definitely does not apply to
domestic use of encryption. (Though it is fair to say that the same
On 10/14/99 at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven M. Bellovin) wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Allen Ethridge writes:
> >
> > None of these things happened when CALEA was implemented in the traditional
> > circuit-switched voice network. CALEA advocates already have a success to
poi
> >
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