Re: prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-28 Thread bram
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Eric Murray wrote: > Netscape used to have a similar policy. I beleive > that they called it "bugs bounty". They also posted security bug > fixes for public review (i.e. the random number bug). Yep, they sure did. I won one of the $1000 ones. They had some paperwork probl

Re: prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-28 Thread Eric Murray
On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 10:31:46AM -0800, Ed Gerck wrote: > I can imagine a company writing, for the benefit of all: > > We support open assessment of risks -- if you find a security fault > in our systems, please tell us first so that we can fix it first. We commit > ourselves to making publ

Truth-In-Advertising proposal, was Re: prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-27 Thread Ed Gerck
Ted Lemon wrote: > Ed Gerck wrote [reinserted for context]: > > >In fact, if there would be a pre-defined reward for those that find holes > >in today's increasing electronic and "secure" systems then companies > >could rely in that reward both as a payment cap and as way to separate > >rewar

Re: prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-27 Thread Ted Lemon
> Comments? I think your proposal is not entirely unreasonable, although I wonder if the people who have the most interest in a secure system are not the banks, but the insurance companies and the customers. My impression of banks is that as long as they can quantify the potential loss, they c

Re: prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-27 Thread Ed Gerck
Ted Lemon wrote: > Amateurs in the crypto world seem to get bitten by this fairly > frequently - read the recent transcripts to the New York preliminary > injunction on the DeCSS case for supporting evidence. If you're out > to prove a point, and you're riding the fine edge of legality and > ci

Re: prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-27 Thread Ted Lemon
> It is fun to read http://www.msnbc.com/msn/361936.asp especially at > the end, because if "This isn't even small potatoes; it's no more > than sprouts." -- then, while the hassle, prison and fine? Well, he did try to extort money from the banks. I think this was really the problem with what

prove me wrong, go to jail

2000-01-27 Thread Ed Gerck
List: It is fun to read http://www.msnbc.com/msn/361936.asp especially at the end, because if "This isn't even small potatoes; it's no more than sprouts." -- then, while the hassle, prison and fine? The conclusion seems to be ... prove me wrong, go to jail. Of course