Re: names to say in late september

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Re: names to say in late september

At 11:51 PM -0400 7/30/2000, dmolnar wrote: >On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: > >> By the way, I could not find the April 2000 RSA Data Security >> Bulletin on three primes at >> http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/bulletins/index.html Is there a >> better link? > >The link I had in

Re: names to say in late september

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: > By the way, I could not find the April 2000 RSA Data Security > Bulletin on three primes at > http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/bulletins/index.html Is there a > better link? The link I had in mind was ftp://ftp.rsasecurity.com/pub/pdfs/b

Re: names to say in late september

While the RSA/Security Dynamics second letter to the P1363 committee http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1363/P1363/letters/SecurityDynamics2.jp g pretty much alleviates my concerns about using the "RSA" name from a legal perspective, the two messages below demonstrate why I think an unambiguous ge

Re: names to say in late september

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Steve Reid wrote: > remember someone (I think it was Richard Schroeppel) a few years ago > advocating RSA with a three-prime modulus. The idea was that having > three primes instead of two would not weaken the algorithm in any > practical way, but it could make CRT operatio

Re: names to say in late september

On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:00:16PM -0400, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: > I like "Biprime Cryptography," or maybe "Biprime Public Key > Cryptography," where a biprime is defined as the product of two prime > numbers. I doesn't get close to any trademark and it is descriptive > of the algorithm. S

RE: names to say in late september

http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1363/P1363/letters/SecurityDynamics2.jpg -John Kennedy (The usual disclaimers apply...) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: names to say in late september > From: Rodney Thayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Many companies trade mark their company name.

Re: names to say in late september

> What shall we call that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be- > patent-protected in late September? we should not use a > trademarked or copyrighted term, in my opinion. I think that "RSA" has gone the way of "Aspirin" and "Zipper". If some lawyers try to make trouble about it, just put the i

Re: names to say in late september

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- This was an issue last year. We've covered the same ground that was covered elsewhere last year, including the same proposed names. Having been awakend by a thunderstorm, I took a little time to check on progress over in IEEE. The latest letter that I found

RE: names to say in late september

> From: Rodney Thayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Many companies trade mark their company name. I've heard the > term 'rsa' pre-dates the company, so I assume they didn't do > that. I don't see it on the web site. > Trademarking the company name and trademarking the algorithm name is diff

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> However, given the, ah, acrimonious nature of this corner of this > marketplace, it seems prudent to consider another name. RSADSI (or whatever their name was back then) once tried to get the IEEE crypto committee to use a generic term, rather than their trademark for the "RSA encryption syste

Re: names to say in late september -- Rishad?

About "Rishad", someone privately wrote: > ... naming an algorithm designed by three jewish guys after > an arabic word doesn't actually seem right to me... Ha! I thought about that ... for a minute or so. But great ideas like RSA must rise above irrelevant cultural boundaries. But now that y

Re: names to say in late september

Many companies trade mark their company name. I've heard the term 'rsa' pre-dates the company, so I assume they didn't do that. I don't see it on the web site. However, given the, ah, acrimonious nature of this corner of this marketplace, it seems prudent to consider another name. [EMAIL PROT

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Why does the patent expiration mean the name must change? The patent is independant of any name/licensing issues. Calling it anything other than RSA is boneheaded.

Re: names to say in late september

Eric Murray wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 07:05:38AM -0700, Rodney Thayer wrote: > > What shall we call > > that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be-patent-protected in late > > September? we should not use a trademarked or copyrighted term, in my > > opinion. > > There was discussion of

Re: names to say in late september

How about RISHAD? It's pronounceable, captures all three inventors in the same order and equal proportions, and is already a name, with relevant connotations. The similar "Rashad" is listed as meaning "integrity of conduct", which seems particularly appropriate.

Re: names to say in late september

At 7:05 AM -0700 7/27/2000, Rodney Thayer wrote: >What shall we call >that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be-patent-protected in late >September? we should not use a trademarked or copyrighted term, in my >opinion. >There was discussion of this a while ago, I think. I don't recall what >was

Re: names to say in late september

At 07:05 AM 7/27/00 -0700, Rodney Thayer wrote: ... >I suggest "Rivest Public Key", or 'RPKey'. It's not the prettiest >buzzword I've ever >suggested, but is there something better to call it? There's already an RPK, which (if I recall correctly) is based on doing Diffie-Hellman with shift regis

Re: names to say in late september

Rodney Thayer wrote: > > What shall we call > that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be-patent-protected in late > September? we should not use a trademarked or copyrighted term, in my > opinion. "The Public Key Algorithm Formerly Known as RSA" In the usual academic tradition, it should conti

Re: names to say in late september

On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 07:05:38AM -0700, Rodney Thayer wrote: > What shall we call > that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be-patent-protected in late > September? we should not use a trademarked or copyrighted term, in my > opinion. > There was discussion of this a while ago, I think. I don'

names to say in late september

What shall we call that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be-patent-protected in late September? we should not use a trademarked or copyrighted term, in my opinion. There was discussion of this a while ago, I think. I don't recall what was around. I suggest "Rivest Public Key", or 'RPKey'. It