Re: legal status of RC4

2000-01-31 Thread Paul Crowley
Um. I found the tone of your reply to my contribution uncalled for and very offensive, and it's made the business of composing a reply that bit less pleasant. I hope you don't feel the need to address other contributors here that way too often. I don't think I want to name the company, the prod

Re: legal status of RC4

2000-01-29 Thread Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
My understaind is that the purpose of trade marks is to indicate origin or quality. If so, assuming RC4 is a valid trademark of RSA Datasystems for a crypto algorithm, which I am not asserting, its use to label a crypto algorithm is a trademark violiation unless the implementation originated fro

Re: legal status of RC4

2000-01-28 Thread bram
First off, anybody could make a cipher called 'RC7'. RC7 isn't trademarked, and 'RC' as a prefix isn't either. It's the same reason why we have an MP4 unrelated to MP3, and why Intel makes Pentiums instead of 586's. I'm a little confused about what exactly constitutes 'causing customer confusion'

Re: legal status of RC4

2000-01-28 Thread Vin McLellan
Arnold G. Reinhold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: >Are you sure RC4 is a registered trademark? I've never seen anything >that would indicate that. RSADSI first filed for a US trademark on "RC4" in 1993. RSA has used RC4 (R) since 1988 in "trade and commerce" (as the phra

Re: legal status of RC4

2000-01-27 Thread Paul Crowley
Vin McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suspect that RSA did send out more than a few nastygrams to OEMs > or other mass marketeers about "illicit use" of RC4, but -- at least in > recent years -- its complaints probably went to commercial enterprises which > both (a) sought to resell

Re: legal status of RC4

2000-01-26 Thread Vin McLellan
Eric Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> queried the Listocracy: >Does anyone know the legal status of RC4 in the US? > >I know that a cipher purporting to be RC4 was published on >Cypherpunks by Anonymous, and that various crypto packages >have RC4 or "EC4". My question is, has RSA taken anyone

Re: legal status of RC4?

2000-01-26 Thread Greg Broiles
At 10:45 AM 1/25/00 , Eric Murray wrote: >Real-To: Eric Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Does anyone know the legal status of RC4 in the US? > >I know that a cipher purporting to be RC4 was published on >Cypherpunks by Anonymous, and that various crypto packages >have RC4 or "EC4". My question is