Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-02 Thread Ben Laurie
Marcus Leech wrote: > So: two questions (with a possible answer of "use the source, luke"): > > o What bits are set in a "super cert" to indicate that it's a SGC > or step-up cert? Or is it simply that certs issued by a super-cert > authority (as marked in the browser CA cert databa

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-02 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 7:42 Subject: Re: Thawte "SuperCerts" > Radia Perlman - Boston Center for Networking wrote: > > > > So since Thawte is advertising this, there must be a new version of > > IE and Netscape that recognize Tha

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-02 Thread Rich Salz
> unless, of course, there's a built-in list of trusted CAs. That's exactly what it is. Patching the list is apparently pretty easy for Netscape Navigator -- instructions are included in the mod_ssl Apache patch -- but it's not currently known what needs to be done to make IE add a trusted CA.

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-02 Thread EKR
"Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, EKR writes: > > > I'm assuming it's compiled into the code, since if it were in the > > cert database, it could be tampered with. > > Sure -- just like Fortify can't exist... Fair enough. I would have kind of exp

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, EKR writes: > I'm assuming it's compiled into the code, since if it were in the > cert database, it could be tampered with. Sure -- just like Fortify can't exist... --Steve Bellovin

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread EKR
"Marcus Leech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd totally forgotten about SGC (Server Gated Crypto), which is why the > Thawte > stuff kind of surprised me. I guess I'd simply erected some kind of > mental block about SGC or something... I can see why you would want to do that. > At their web

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Marcus Leech
Radia Perlman - Boston Center for Networking wrote: > > So since Thawte is advertising this, there must be a new version of > IE and Netscape that recognize Thawte as an issuer of step-up certs. > Which must mean that the US govt has approved Thawte (so that they > allow export of browsers that r

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Radia Perlman - Boston Center for Networking
I'd heard that unlike the trusted certifiers for regular certificates, that the certifiers trusted for "step-up" certificates couldn't be configured. This makes sense for the govt to insist on this, since if you can add certifiers to your browser that issue step-up certs, then it becomes really ea

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <00ee01bf3c40$08c1df00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthew Ham rick" writes: > This moves the problem of what gets > exported from the application developer to the CA issuing the super > cert. While I'm not sure, I'm guessing that VeriSign can't issue a > super cert to Uncle Saddam, but Thawte

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Greg Broiles
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 02:36:46PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marcus Leech" writes: > > The Thawte folks are busily promoting their "SuperCerts" which enable > > 128-bit > > symmetric modes in "International" versions of the various browsers. > > > > I g

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Matthew Hamrick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus, Yes, this is a feature referred to as "step up" or "server gated crypto." The idea is that as an application developer, you provide an application that typically only allows export grade ciphers. Upon presentation of a particular "super ce

Re: Thawte "SuperCerts"

1999-12-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marcus Leech" writes: > The Thawte folks are busily promoting their "SuperCerts" which enable > 128-bit > symmetric modes in "International" versions of the various browsers. > > I guess I've been out of touch--is there an extension in web certs that > enables >