Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread R. Hirschfeld
> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:35:42 -0700 > From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Provably secure" is a word applicable to cyphers, not protocols. To use > it in reference to a protocol is nonsense gibberish. No, it is just more difficult to establish of protocols than of primitives bec

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread Derek Atkins
Actually, no, you can apply "provably secure" to a protocol as well. Granted, it is usually applied to cryptographic protocols, but that is still a protocol, not a cryptosystem. Indeed, one could attempt to apply "provably secre" techniques to protocols such as Kerberos, or, in the case of the or

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > I do not understand what is meant by "provably secure"] At 09:57 AM 7/28/2000 -0400, Rich Salz wrote > An unfortunate admission for a would-be cryptographer. It should have been obvious from the context that you deleted that I was criticizing the use of the word t

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread Rich Salz
> I do not understand what is meant by "provably secure". An unfortunate admission for a would-be cryptographer. For what it's worth, this is a mark against your credibility and might mean that fewer real crypto types will look at your work. (And no, I don't qualify as a crypto type.) /