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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:26:20 -0400
To: "Digital Commerce Soc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Jeff Kandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tipster voluntary payment protocol
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At 11:21 AM -0400 8/26/2000, Jeff Kandt wrote:
>On or about 11:52 AM -0400 8/24/00, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>>>The design goals: http://tipster.weblogs.com/designgoals
>>>The crypto protocol: http://tipster.weblogs.com/tipsterblock/
>>>
>>>Both of these are open to debate.
>>>
>>
>>First let m
On or about 11:52 AM -0400 8/24/00, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>>The design goals: http://tipster.weblogs.com/designgoals
>>The crypto protocol: http://tipster.weblogs.com/tipsterblock/
>>
>>Both of these are open to debate.
>>
>
>First let me say something positive. I like your design goals. The
At 11:50 PM -0400 8/23/2000, Jeff Kandt wrote:
>On or about 12:49 PM -0400 8/23/00, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>>Certificate revocation is one of the thorniest issues in public key
>>cryptography. Maybe you can solve it in this narrow context, but I
>>would avoid it if there is another way and I
"Fred Hapgood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stick *what* into a standard contract? What would that provision
> look like? "Artist agrees not to accept gifts from fans?" "Artist
> agrees not to possess or publicize public key or digital signature?"
"Artist shall not in any way participate i
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Fred Hapgood wrote:
> Stick *what* into a standard contract? What would that provision
> look like? "Artist agrees not to accept gifts from fans?" "Artist
> agrees not to possess or publicize public key or digital signature?"
>
> I don't think so. The RIAA is unhinge
> Actually, This is an interesting point legally. The artist
> certifying a payment server with an unforgeable digital signature is
> an act that can be pointed to in court. It's a signature on a kind of
> contract, and the extant recording industry can claim it's a contract
> that the arti
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>At 8:28 PM -0400 8/17/2000, Jeff Kandt wrote:
>>It won't be long before music will come straight from the artist in
>>a compressed, net-friendly form. If it's the artists creating the
>>file, then they'd might as well stamp their contact inf
At 10:59 PM -0400 8/20/2000, Jeff Kandt wrote:
>...
>Tipster allows the artist to revoke any given key with a revokation
>certificate. By allowing the artist to encode multiple
>URL/signature pairs onto the file, they can set up multiple,
>redundant revenue streams, and you encourage competiti
On or about 7:03 AM -0400 8/18/00, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>I agree that making it easy is essential. But I still do not think
>attaching all the info to the content is needed to make things easy.
>First of all, there is no need to have the servers' keys attached.
There are no keys attached
At 8:28 PM -0400 8/17/2000, Jeff Kandt wrote:
>On or about 12:57 PM -0400 8/17/00, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>>I think a voluntary payment system is a fine idea, but I am not
>>sure that your proposal address the right issues. If I understand
>>what you are proposing correctly, your scheme allow
On or about 12:57 PM -0400 8/17/00, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:
>I think a voluntary payment system is a fine idea, but I am not sure
>that your proposal address the right issues. If I understand what
>you are proposing correctly, your scheme allows a CD buyer to verify
>that a particular payment
Jeff,
I think a voluntary payment system is a fine idea, but I am not sure
that your proposal address the right issues. If I understand what you
are proposing correctly, your scheme allows a CD buyer to verify that
a particular payment server is authorized by the recording artist to
collect p
"Tipster" is the name I'm using for the voluntary payment scheme I
posted to the coderpunks and cypherpunks lists (among others) a few
weeks ago under the title "Kill the RIAA: a protocol."
http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.2000.07.24-2000.07.30/msg00387.html
Since that post, I've set up
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