Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-30 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III
Unlike humans, who have these pesky things called rights, we can abuse our computer programs to deduce why they made decisions. I can see a future where that has to happen. From my experience in trying to best the stock market with an algorithm I can tell you that you have to be able to explain

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-30 Thread Álvaro Begué
In your hypothetical scenario, if the car can give you as much debugging information as you suggest (100% tree is there, 95% child is there), you can actually figure out what's happening. The only other piece of information you need is the configured utility values for the possible outcomes. Say t

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-30 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III
I would argue that if I was an engineer for a hypothetical autonomous car manufacturer, that it would be critically important to keep a running circular buffer of all the inputs over time for the car. Sort of like how existing cars have Dash Cams that continuously record to flash, but only keep

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-30 Thread Álvaro Begué
I am not sure how people are designing self-driving cars, but if it were up to me, it would be very explicitly about maximizing expected utility. A neural network can be trained to estimate the expected sum of future rewards, usually with some exponential future discount. Actually, that's explicitl

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

2017-10-30 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 30.10.2017 19:22, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote: this car and this child In Germany, an ethics commission has written ethical guidelines for self-driving cars with also the rule to always prefer avoiding casualties of human beings. -- robert jasiek __