Re: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
(a) Much software downloadable from the internet is legal (think gGo, GnuGo, linux, etc), therefore downloading it from the internet is not necessarily piracy. (b) Most of the sums of money I've seen for competitions are trivial (except the Ing Prize). This might easily change if/when computer go

Re: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread Petri Pitkanen
Commercial market for Go software is in Japan in Korea. Western player do not make significant numbers and Chinese probably find bettre uses for money - although there more reach Chinese people than people in Finland. Petri 2008/11/21 Michael Gherrity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I have read th

[computer-go] RE : UCT RefBot

2008-11-21 Thread Denis fidaali
I think that most people trying go-programming will try at least to experiment once with UCT. The first logical step, is to build an amaf-bot. The other logical step, is to build a UCT bot. That's exactly the path i followed. And i bet many others have done that too. So it may be guessed that

Re: [computer-go] Re: UCT RefBot

2008-11-21 Thread Don Dailey
On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 01:34 +, Claus Reinke wrote: > As a relative beginner in these matters, the more I look at AMAF, > the less I like it, and I think that has to do with AMAF ignoring > relative sequencing. By looking at all moves as if they were played > first, it ignores that some moves on

Re: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread Don Dailey
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 23:53 -0800, Michael Gherrity wrote: > Hi, > > I have read that the amount of money that a winning computer go > program would make in a go tournament is insignificant compared to the > amount of money that such a program would earn selling to the general > public. I ha

Re: [computer-go] RE : UCT RefBot

2008-11-21 Thread Mark Boon
On 21-nov-08, at 09:34, Denis fidaali wrote: I think that most people trying go-programming will try at least to experiment once with UCT. The first logical step, is to build an amaf-bot. The other logical step, is to build a UCT bot. That's exactly the path i followed. And i bet many othe

Re: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread terry mcintyre
> From: Michael Gherrity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have read that the amount of money that a winning computer go program would > make in a go tournament is insignificant compared to the amount of money that > such a program would earn selling to the general public. That is obviously true. Prize

Re: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread terry mcintyre
Americans have, generally speaking, more respect for the rights of others - and guns play a part in that, since many of us choose to defend our rights directly. As Heinlein wrote: "An armed society is a polite society." Google "pink pistols" and "terry mcintyre" if you wish. I say "in general

RE: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread David Fotland
I've sold 3 copies of Many Faces of Go in China, but when I travel to China I check in computer stores, they always have it available for a low price. I have a collection of Chinese versions of Many Faces, one with a 30 page Chinese language manual explaining all the features in Chinese. I would s

RE: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread David Fotland
My sales in Japan through AI IGO are 10x or more the sales of Many Faces English. English sales are about evenly split between USA and Europe. I have more sales to Finland than to China. David > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

Re: [computer-go] Selling a computer go program

2008-11-21 Thread Don Dailey
On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 07:53 -0800, terry mcintyre wrote: > Americans have, generally speaking, more respect for the rights of > others - and guns play a part in that, since many of us choose to > defend our rights directly. As Heinlein wrote: "An armed society is a > polite society." I don't want

[computer-go] Handtalk's Chen Zhixing

2008-11-21 Thread Ian Osgood
The following was posted on Sensei's Library: "Prof. Chen passed away at Oct 12, 2008, at the age of 77." Can anyone confirm or deny? Ian ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-

Re: [computer-go] UCT RefBot

2008-11-21 Thread Mark Boon
I have done a bit more testing and some things start to become a little more clear to me. But I still have some open questions. What I did was to rewrite my search such that I can set a constant that determines after how many simulations the tree gets expanded. And I have a switch to turn A

Re: [computer-go] Handtalk's Chen Zhixing

2008-11-21 Thread John Fan
I read it on Chinese news and forums as well. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following was posted on Sensei's Library: > > "Prof. Chen passed away at Oct 12, 2008, at the age of 77." > > Can anyone confirm or deny? > > Ian > > __

[computer-go] On Don Dailey's first chess program

2008-11-21 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Dear Don, sorry to step in here, but I can't believe what you write. So I would like to know some facts. > My first chess program only sold a few copies in Europe. What was the name of your program? In which year was it published? For what platform had it been? > But I came to find out that t