Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Aja Huang
Hello Oliver, 2015-03-16 11:58 GMT+00:00 Oliver Lewis : > > It's impressive that the same network learned to play seven games with > just a win/lose signal. It's also interesting that both these teams are in > different parts of Google. I assume they are aware of each other's work, > but maybe Aj

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Oliver Lewis
I am also interested in unsupervised learning. When this first came up, I found this paper: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.5602v1.pdf, where the authors taught a deep convolutional network to play games from the Atari console. They used what they call "Deep Reinforcement Learning", a variant of Q-learni

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread hughperkins2
> The important thing is that the games don't have to be played perfectly: They >just need to be significantly better than your current model, so you can tweak >the model to learn from them. Thats an important incite. I hadnt thought of that.  Maybe could combine with some concept of "forgettin

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Álvaro Begué
The human brain is not the most powerful AI, because it fails the "A" test. I suspect bootstrapping is not very hard. I have recently written a Spanish checkers program starting with no knowledge and I got it to play top-human level checkers within a few weeks. You can build a database of games a

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-16 Thread Darren Cook
> To be honest, what I really want is for it to self-learn,... I wonder if even the world's most powerful AI (i.e. the human brain) could self-learn go to, say, strong dan level? I.e. Give a boy genius a go board, the rules, and two years, but don't give him any books, hints, or the chance to play

Re: [Computer-go] Fwd: Teaching Deep Convolutional Neural Networks to Play Go

2015-03-15 Thread Michael Markefka
I was thinking about bootstrapping possibilities, and wondered whether it would be possible to use a shallower mimic net for positional evaluation playouts from a specific depth on after having generated positions with a certain branching factor that typically allows the actual pro move to be inclu