Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo and Perfect Play

2017-08-17 Thread Petri Pitkanen
Has to be truly far. Even in chess best estimates are that current computers are still few hundred ELO points away from perfect. In chess on can make estimates based what draw rates current best ones would get against perfect play. Loads of guess work but still reasonable. In go difference must be

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo and Perfect Play

2017-08-17 Thread valkyria
Another way of seeing it: the evaluation of a program that can play perfect would tend to give score close to 100% or 0 %. As far as I know Alphago would stay close to 50% for a long time just like most other programs (but with much higher correlation with the actual outcome of course). Magn

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo and Perfect Play

2017-08-16 Thread Xavier Combelle
According to what happen in chess and according to the tee size of go game I would say that astronomically far from perfect play is an astronomical understatement. Le 17 août 2017 07:17, "Cai Gengyang" a écrit : Does anyone here know how far AlphaGo is away from perfect play ? Estimations ? Gen