Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-17 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The 2008 US Go Congress is August 2-9, which overlaps with the end of the Beijing events. This makes a case for holding any such tournament near the end of the Congress. Thanks for the tip! In 2008, the European Go Congress

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Peter Drake
The 2008 US Go Congress is August 2-9, which overlaps with the end of the Beijing events. This makes a case for holding any such tournament near the end of the Congress. Thanks for the tip! In related news, it looks like the 1st World Mind Sports Games (sorry, humans only) will also be held

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 6/16/07, Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's still a long way off, but I hope to organize a computer Go tournament at the 2008 Congress here in Portland, Oregon. Would that be in August? It might not fit well with the events in Beijing. see: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/eve

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Jason House
On 6/16/07, Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They've finally posted the schedule for the Congress: http://congress.usgo.org/schedule_20070614.pdf I'll be there, and I presume Erik will. Anyone else? I definitely want to be there to meet other computer go programmers. It's likely tha

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Peter Drake
They've finally posted the schedule for the Congress: http://congress.usgo.org/schedule_20070614.pdf I'll be there, and I presume Erik will. Anyone else? As for a meeting among Go programmers, how about the afternoon of Saturday, August 4? We'll be done with our US Open games by then, and I

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Jason House
On 6/15/07, Erik van der Werf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So far, Steenvreter has never played on CGOS. I'm very busy with work, so it will take a while before I have time to put it up for some games. Also to be honest, I'm not really that interested. I guess CGOS is nice if you have no other way

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Don Dailey
On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 10:30 +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote: > On 6/16/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:54 +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote: > > > So far, Steenvreter has never played on CGOS. I'm very busy with work, > > > so it will take a while before I have ti

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-16 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 6/16/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:54 +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote: > So far, Steenvreter has never played on CGOS. I'm very busy with work, > so it will take a while before I have time to put it up for some > games. Also to be honest, I'm not really that

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-15 Thread Don Dailey
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:54 +0200, Erik van der Werf wrote: > So far, Steenvreter has never played on CGOS. I'm very busy with work, > so it will take a while before I have time to put it up for some > games. Also to be honest, I'm not really that interested. I guess CGOS > is nice if you have no o

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-15 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 6/16/07, Erik van der Werf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If Mogo had played B8 instead of C9 it probably would have won the game. Oops, that should of course be B8 instead of A7. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.comp

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-15 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 6/14/07, Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Magnus, Congratulations to Steenvreeter. Thank you for your analysis. Did you looked at the first game Steenvreeter-MoGo (MoGo was white)? I wonder, because MoGo was really happy, estimation always increased, up to 81%, then in one move dr

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-15 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 6/14/07, Magnus Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Congratulations to Steenvreeter! Thx In the second game against CrazyStone it played like a weak MC-program in the opening - playing all moves in the center and allowing Crazystone as white to make two rock solid groups which in my experi

[computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Gabriel Kronberger
Quoting Magnus Persson: Quoting Sylvain Gelly : Hi Darren, After white (mogo) H2, MoGo was estimating 74%, and expecting: H2 G1 H3 B1 A1 B3 H1 F8 B5 H4 Then black played H3, and estimation increased to 81%, white B3 and expecting: B3 B1 A1 B4 C5 C4 A3 C6 B6 B5 This sequence is a disaster f

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting Magnus Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Quoting Sanghyeon Seo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Agreed about move 50 at C9, but can black win after that? I guess threatening seki means A8 after C9, then: (first move white, move 50) C9 A8 A7 F9 E9 A6 B8 C6 A9 is forced. I have to change my mind again

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread steve uurtamo
5kyu analysis, so take it with a big grain of salt. moves 10, 30 and 46 look questionable to me. 10 ought to be F7 (although this is arguable). 30 ought to be G3 or thereabouts. 46 should have been E9 instead of D9. s. _

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting Sanghyeon Seo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2007/6/14, Magnus Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Quoting Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Darren, > > After white (mogo) H2, MoGo was estimating 74%, and expecting: > H2 G1 H3 B1 A1 B3 H1 F8 B5 H4 > Then black played H3, and estimation increased

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
2007/6/14, Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thank you for your analysis. Did you looked at the first game Steenvreeter-MoGo (MoGo was white)? I wonder, because MoGo was really happy, estimation always increased, up to 81%, then in one move dropped to less 50%, and MoGo eventually lost. I wonder

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
2007/6/14, Magnus Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Quoting Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Darren, > > After white (mogo) H2, MoGo was estimating 74%, and expecting: > H2 G1 H3 B1 A1 B3 H1 F8 B5 H4 > Then black played H3, and estimation increased to 81%, white B3 and > expecting: > B3 B1 A1

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Darren, After white (mogo) H2, MoGo was estimating 74%, and expecting: H2 G1 H3 B1 A1 B3 H1 F8 B5 H4 Then black played H3, and estimation increased to 81%, white B3 and expecting: B3 B1 A1 B4 C5 C4 A3 C6 B6 B5 This sequence is a disaster for Mog

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
2007/6/14, Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: After white (mogo) H2, MoGo was estimating 74%, and expecting: H2 G1 H3 B1 A1 B3 H1 F8 B5 H4 Then black played H3, and estimation increased to 81%, white B3 and expecting: B3 B1 A1 B4 C5 C4 A3 C6 B6 B5 Actually during pondering MoGo realized that it

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Eduardo Sabbatella
Is it a new engine nobody knows before ? --- Sylvain Gelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Hi Magnus, > > Congratulations to Steenvreeter. > __ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yah

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hi Darren, After white (mogo) H2, MoGo was estimating 74%, and expecting: H2 G1 H3 B1 A1 B3 H1 F8 B5 H4 Then black played H3, and estimation increased to 81%, white B3 and expecting: B3 B1 A1 B4 C5 C4 A3 C6 B6 B5 Actually during pondering MoGo realized that it was lost then, because black playe

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Darren Cook
> In the second game against CrazyStone it played like a weak > MC-program in the opening - playing all moves in the center and > allowing Crazystone as white to make two rock solid groups which in > my experience should be an easy win for white. But Crazystone then > played some slow moves and mad

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hi Magnus, Congratulations to Steenvreeter. Thank you for your analysis. Did you looked at the first game Steenvreeter-MoGo (MoGo was white)? I wonder, because MoGo was really happy, estimation always increased, up to 81%, then in one move dropped to less 50%, and MoGo eventually lost. I wonder

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-14 Thread Magnus Persson
Congratulations to Steenvreeter! I looked at the games against MoGo and Crazystone to see what this engine might do. But it is really hard since most moves played by the top programs are quite good. In the second game against CrazyStone it played like a weak MC-program in the opening - playin

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-13 Thread chrilly
Steenvreter means "StoneEater". If the name is a concept, its interesting. Sounds like tactics is all. Chrilly - Original Message - From: "Hideki Kato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "computer-go" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [compu

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-13 Thread Hideki Kato
Nick Wedd: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >are here: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/tournament.php?id=169 >The winner was Streenveeter Not Streenveeter but Steenvreter. -gg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.or

Re: [computer-go] results of computer olympiad 9x9

2007-06-13 Thread Nick Wedd
are here: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/tournament.php?id=169 The winner was Streenveeter Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/