Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Edward de Grijs
Ah. Orego will have the "ponder" feature soon. I am busy to include "pondering" for FirstGo. Should be ready within a few days. Edward. On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Don Dailey wrote: ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Kh

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-20 Thread William M. Shubert
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 11:04 +0200, Aloril wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 18:25 -0500, Don Dailey wrote: > > server.host=goserver.gokgs.com > > server.port=2379 > > These lines are not needed. Not only are they not needed, they are a ***VERY BAD IDEA***. If KGS moves (as it did a few months ago)

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
Yes, ponder in English means to think, but in the context of this discussion it means specifically to "use the opponents time to compute!" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:30 +, Nick Wedd wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don > Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >ponder means to "us

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" And being a native English speaker would not help you to know this - it is a very specialised meaning. Nick - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Khong wrote:

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Peter Drake
Ah. Orego will have the "ponder" feature soon. Peter Drake Assistant Professor of Computer Science Lewis & Clark College http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Don Dailey wrote: ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100,

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Khong wrote: > hi, > > steve uurtamo wrote: > > this might be a counterproductive idea, > > but does anyone who mc's also ponder? > > a quick question from a non-nativ english speaker: what does "p

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Ephrim Khong
hi, steve uurtamo wrote: > this might be a counterproductive idea, > but does anyone who mc's also ponder? a quick question from a non-nativ english speaker: what does "ponder" mean here? thanks eph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting steve uurtamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: hi, this might be a counterproductive idea, but does anyone who mc's also ponder? Both Valkyria and MoGo (I think) ponder. This works very good on 9x9 but on 19x19 it might only work well after forcing moves. -Magnus ___

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
Lazarus does not ponder, but it should. This is potentially a nice improvement as Lazarus predicts the opponents moves fairly consistently. - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 06:33 -0800, steve uurtamo wrote: > hi, > > this might be a counterproductive idea, > but does anyone who mc's also ponder?

RE: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread House, Jason J.
>this might be a counterproductive idea, >but does anyone who mc's also ponder? I think I've heard that valkyra ponders. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

[computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread steve uurtamo
hi, this might be a counterproductive idea, but does anyone who mc's also ponder? s. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ computer-

[computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament thought in the middle

2006-12-18 Thread David Doshay
It seems that so far the moves generated by SlugGo are not worth the time they take, and in fact look worse than moves I might expect with shorter time settings. I will be able to check later by replaying this game (with faster lookahead) but forcing SlugGo to continue following this game.

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-18 Thread Don Dailey
William, One question - My opponent in the first round somehow got disconnected. A few minutes later botnoid was "kicked" from the game. What would happen if my opponent came back? Would botnoid automatically rejoin the game or would it now be botnoid that would lose on time? Ther

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-18 Thread David Doshay
There seem to be other modes having to do with estimated kyu level and game pairing. I guess we need to ignore those for the tournament? Cheers, David On 18, Dec 2006, at 1:00 AM, William M. Shubert wrote: Oops, sorry for not notifying people here about the the change. I assumed that people

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-18 Thread Aloril
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 18:25 -0500, Don Dailey wrote: > server.host=goserver.gokgs.com > server.port=2379 These lines are not needed. -- Aloril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mail

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-18 Thread William M. Shubert
Oops, sorry for not notifying people here about the the change. I assumed that people would notice the change when they logged in for non-tournament use, but people who only use kgsGtp for tournaments would find out at the worst possible time. :-( It is a simple change. Just change "tournament=t"

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-17 Thread Don Dailey
r is > "server.host=goserver.igoweb.org" > > And you should use new kgsGtp-3.3.11.tar.gz > http://www.gokgs.com/download.xhtml > > Regards, > Hiroshi Yamashita > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "David Doshay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-17 Thread Don Dailey
> Hiroshi Yamashita > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "David Doshay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "computer-go" > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament > > &

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-16 Thread David Doshay
erver.host=goserver.igoweb.org" And you should use new kgsGtp-3.3.11.tar.gz http://www.gokgs.com/download.xhtml Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "David Doshay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "computer-go" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-16 Thread David Doshay
-- From: "David Doshay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "computer-go" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter f

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-16 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
mputer-go" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament > Hi, > > We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping > incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone > please post one fo

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-16 Thread David Doshay
Hi, We are using the new KGS for the first time and are bumping incrementally into the changes in the parameter file. Could someone please post one for us? Cheers, David On 14, Dec 2006, at 4:49 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-15 Thread David Doshay
We are working hard to be ready on short notice, and are shooting in the dark about how to use the extra time. So far we are not able to bring up a SlugGo that would take advantage of that much time. But we will keep trying and, as you said: You can regard it as a test slow tournament. Cheer

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-14 Thread Don Dailey
Hi Nick, I'm not going to be ready for such a tournament - but I really want to be. I hope you have another one at a later date. - Don On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 12:49 +, Nick Wedd wrote: > The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at > 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT)

[computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-14 Thread Nick Wedd
The 2006 Slow KGS computer Go tournament will be next week, starting at 00:00 on Monday 18th UCT (GMT). It will be a five round Swiss, with each game taking a full day (i.e. eleven hours fifty minutes each, sudden death). Each game is scheduled to start at midnight in my UK timezone, so the f