Mark Boon wrote:
>> Look at the attached file. This position is win for black in Japanese
>> rules, but the only correct move is pass. If black plays anywhere other
>> than pass, he loses. This time white's correct move is pass, otherwise
>> he loses. Such a condition breaks winning rate values in
2009/3/23 Yamato :
> Sorry for responding to the old topic.
>
> Mark Boon wrote:
>>Other than that, I'd take a different approach:
>>
>>- play out as usual. Instead of counting stones + eyes on the board,
>>you count eyes + prisoners + nr-opponent's passes during playout.
>>- don't count passes out
Sorry for responding to the old topic.
Mark Boon wrote:
>Other than that, I'd take a different approach:
>
>- play out as usual. Instead of counting stones + eyes on the board,
>you count eyes + prisoners + nr-opponent's passes during playout.
>- don't count passes outside of playout.
>
>I think
I think as long as you don't count passes during exploration (or game-
play) but only count passes during playout as points for the opponent,
I don't see why you would need any adjustment.
As to unsettled groups, that's what the second phase is for. Playout
acts as the second phase in this c
Rémi Coulom wrote:
Yes. The recipe is:
- play as usual with Chinese rules,
- take a one-point security margin with respect to komi,
- pass as soon as the opponent passes.
You also have to be careful to score seki the Japanese way in the
playouts. This is the most difficult part. If your playou
David Fotland wrote:
I only pass in the playouts when the game is over. There is a possible one
point adjustment depending on who passes first.
So I can't see how you can avoid taking a one-point security margin with
respect to komi. Who passes first in the playout is meaningless. A
clever J
ay, February 04, 2009 2:05 AM
> To: computer-go
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] MC and Japanese rules
>
> David Fotland a écrit :
> > This is what I do in Many Faces, and score seki Japanese style at the
end.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >> Other than tha
David Fotland a écrit :
This is what I do in Many Faces, and score seki Japanese style at the end.
David
Other than that, I'd take a different approach:
- play out as usual. Instead of counting stones + eyes on the board,
you count eyes + prisoners + nr-opponent's passes during playout.
-
This is what I do in Many Faces, and score seki Japanese style at the end.
David
>
> Other than that, I'd take a different approach:
>
> - play out as usual. Instead of counting stones + eyes on the board,
> you count eyes + prisoners + nr-opponent's passes during playout.
> - don't count passe
On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Rémi Coulom wrote:
Mark Boon wrote:
I think I've seen people post about playing with Japanese rules in
relation to MC programs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I saw
people do some adjustment in that case. Does that mean they
actually use Chinese scoring i
Mark Boon wrote:
I think I've seen people post about playing with Japanese rules in
relation to MC programs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I saw
people do some adjustment in that case. Does that mean they actually
use Chinese scoring internally?
Mark
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I think I've seen people post about playing with Japanese rules in
relation to MC programs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I saw
people do some adjustment in that case. Does that mean they actually
use Chinese scoring internally?
Mark
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