Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-12 Thread Lars Schäfers
Well, gomorra can't see if there is a possibility to win through seki. I need to add some code for recognizing it. Passing before resigning was just a quick hack that took about 5 minutes to integrate. I agree, as we all saw, that this hack can lead to undeserved wins. If you Nick, are able to

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-12 Thread Magnus Persson
12.01.10 11:49:28 An: computer-go@computer-go.org Betreff: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego! If the winning chance are lower than a lower threshold it should resign not pass. The only alternative to resigning in a lost position is to play on unless there are no legal moves. Best Magnus Q

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-12 Thread Nick Wedd
Thanks to you all for your comments and corrections. I have updated the page. Jeff: you are right about pachi's win, I should have seen that. Aja: I understand now, I had missed the cut at g8. Ingo: Usually I try to follow URLs with a space, this time I forgot. Lars: both points now corr

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-12 Thread Lars Schäfers
pass move but found a nice way of handling seki situations during the search? - Lars > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: "Magnus Persson" > Gesendet: 12.01.10 11:49:28 > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > Betreff: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego! >

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-12 Thread Magnus Persson
If the winning chance are lower than a lower threshold it should resign not pass. The only alternative to resigning in a lost position is to play on unless there are no legal moves. Best Magnus Quoting Lars Schäfers : Hi Nick, just two little comments to the report: - In your comment to r

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-12 Thread Lars Schäfers
Hi Nick, just two little comments to the report: - In your comment to round 12 you stated that gomorra doesn't support cleanup. It does. But if the winning chance is lower than a certain threshold it also passes in the cleanup phase when there are still dead stones. - Since the last tournament the

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-11 Thread Aja
Sorry, I forgot to quote the paragraph of Nick's report. Zen9 apeared (to me) to be winning its round 9 game with Fuego SGF, when it made move 32 as shown in the >diagram to the right. This achieves nothing (unless Black answers it wrong). When Black answered sensibly at >33, Zen9 resigned (th

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-11 Thread Aja
Zen, as White, will lose the game if the game is going on. Attached is the variation by my judgement. Black has a very strong move G8 cut. Aja From your report: "In round 15, gomorra9 and pachi [...] The game was counted as a win to Black; I don't know how it was counted this way, but Black

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-11 Thread Jeff Nowakowski
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:29:33PM +, Nick Wedd wrote: > Congratulations to Fuego, clear winner of yesterday's KGS bot > tournament! > > My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/55/index.html, > probably with the usual errors. I hope you will report these to me so > that I can cor

[computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2010-01-11 Thread Nick Wedd
Congratulations to Fuego, clear winner of yesterday's KGS bot tournament! My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/55/index.html, probably with the usual errors. I hope you will report these to me so that I can correct them. Nick -- Nick Weddn...@maproom.co.uk __

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <20091110233800.gf6...@machine.or.cz>, Petr Baudis writes On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:07:22PM +, Nick Wedd wrote: Fuego was the clear winner of Sunday's KGS bot tournament, despite playing without its opening book. My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/53/index.html

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2009-11-10 Thread Petr Baudis
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:07:22PM +, Nick Wedd wrote: > Fuego was the clear winner of Sunday's KGS bot tournament, despite > playing without its opening book. My report is at > http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/53/index.html Thanks for the report. I'm confused by the commentary of round 4, s

[computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego!

2009-11-10 Thread Nick Wedd
Fuego was the clear winner of Sunday's KGS bot tournament, despite playing without its opening book. My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/53/index.html Nick -- Nick Weddn...@maproom.co.uk ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@compu

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-14 Thread Hideki Kato
computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Rémi Coulom >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:53 PM >> To: computer-go >> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion! >> >> Congratulations to the Fuego team. Also, congratulations to MoGo for >

RE: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-13 Thread David Fotland
Coulom > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:53 PM > To: computer-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion! > > Congratulations to the Fuego team. Also, congratulations to MoGo for > silver, and Yogo for bronze.You can see games and results there: > ht

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-13 Thread Don Dailey
And my congratulation too to team Fuego, MoGo and Yogo. - Don On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Rémi Coulom wrote: > Congratulations to the Fuego team. Also, congratulations to MoGo for > silver, and Yogo for bronze.You can see games and results there: > http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/tou

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-13 Thread Rémi Coulom
Congratulations to the Fuego team. Also, congratulations to MoGo for silver, and Yogo for bronze.You can see games and results there: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/tournament.php?id=194 Thanks to Martin Mueller for entering all the tournament data into the ICGA database. Rémi _

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-13 Thread Thomas Wolf
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Isaac Deutsch wrote: > Wow, you're fast to congratulate. ;) > > Congratulations from me, too. From me 3. :) Thomas > > Isaac > -- > Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss > für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* > http://dslspecial.gmx.de/fr

Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-13 Thread Isaac Deutsch
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[computer-go] Congratulations to Fuego, the new champion!

2009-05-13 Thread Łukasz Lew
It beat mogo in playoff. Gratulations! As fuego is opensource, you might be interested in it's playout policy: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~games/go/fuego/fuego-doc/gouct-doc/GoUctPlayoutPolicy_8h-source.html#l00489 Lukasz ___ computer-go mailing list com