Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Edward de Grijs
Ah. Orego will have the "ponder" feature soon. I am busy to include "pondering" for FirstGo. Should be ready within a few days. Edward. On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Don Dailey wrote: ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Kh

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament

2006-12-20 Thread William M. Shubert
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 11:04 +0200, Aloril wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 18:25 -0500, Don Dailey wrote: > > server.host=goserver.gokgs.com > > server.port=2379 > > These lines are not needed. Not only are they not needed, they are a ***VERY BAD IDEA***. If KGS moves (as it did a few months ago)

Re: [computer-go] Unsigned random numbers in Java

2006-12-20 Thread William Harold Newman
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 12:34:12AM +0100, John Tromp wrote: > On 12/20/06, Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I tried creating a random number generator > > > >java.util.Random rand = new java.util.Random() > > > >and then asking it for a random int > > > >rand.nextInt() > > > >which I w

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
Yes, ponder in English means to think, but in the context of this discussion it means specifically to "use the opponents time to compute!" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:30 +, Nick Wedd wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don > Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >ponder means to "us

Re: [computer-go] Unsigned random numbers in Java

2006-12-20 Thread John Tromp
On 12/20/06, Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried creating a random number generator java.util.Random rand = new java.util.Random() and then asking it for a random int rand.nextInt() which I would then take modulo the board size to choose a random point. Since ints in Java are sign

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Nick Wedd
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" And being a native English speaker would not help you to know this - it is a very specialised meaning. Nick - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Khong wrote:

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Peter Drake
Ah. Orego will have the "ponder" feature soon. Peter Drake Assistant Professor of Computer Science Lewis & Clark College http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Dec 20, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Don Dailey wrote: ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100,

Re: [computer-go] Unsigned random numbers in Java

2006-12-20 Thread Ephrim Khong
Peter Drake wrote: > I tried creating a random number generator > > java.util.Random rand = new java.util.Random() > > and then asking it for a random int > > rand.nextInt() > > which I would then take modulo the board size to choose a random > point. Note that "rand.nextInt(int n)" might be what

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
ponder means to "use the opponents time to think" - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 23:56 +0100, Ephrim Khong wrote: > hi, > > steve uurtamo wrote: > > this might be a counterproductive idea, > > but does anyone who mc's also ponder? > > a quick question from a non-nativ english speaker: what does "p

Re: [computer-go] Unsigned random numbers in Java

2006-12-20 Thread sylvain . gelly
> "Note that if the argument is equal to the value of > Integer.MIN_VALUE, the most negative representable int value, the > result is that same value, which is negative." > > Yikes! > I hope this saves some time for the next person to encounter this > problem. Hello, I ran exactly in the same pro

[computer-go] Unsigned random numbers in Java

2006-12-20 Thread Peter Drake
I tried creating a random number generator java.util.Random rand = new java.util.Random() and then asking it for a random int rand.nextInt() which I would then take modulo the board size to choose a random point. Since ints in Java are signed, I would have to take the absolute value of thi

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Ephrim Khong
hi, steve uurtamo wrote: > this might be a counterproductive idea, > but does anyone who mc's also ponder? a quick question from a non-nativ english speaker: what does "ponder" mean here? thanks eph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Magnus Persson
Quoting steve uurtamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: hi, this might be a counterproductive idea, but does anyone who mc's also ponder? Both Valkyria and MoGo (I think) ponder. This works very good on 9x9 but on 19x19 it might only work well after forcing moves. -Magnus ___

Re: [computer-go] Anchor Player

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
Again, this stuff doesn't work so well with Monte Carlo programs which would be totally frustrated starting from a losing position - they are all about finding moves that might win the game - not increase the territory count. Also, komi is like a fine tuning knob, stone handicap can be used to ma

Re: [computer-go] Anchor Player

2006-12-20 Thread Hideki Kato
Stuart A. Yeates‚³‚ñ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >Increasing komi is much easier than placing stores, but a much weaker >representation of how go games are actually played in the real world. Agree. But we'd better not to be bothered by fixed stones now, I believe. >cheers >stuart > >On 12/15/06, Hideki

Re: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread Don Dailey
Lazarus does not ponder, but it should. This is potentially a nice improvement as Lazarus predicts the opponents moves fairly consistently. - Don On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 06:33 -0800, steve uurtamo wrote: > hi, > > this might be a counterproductive idea, > but does anyone who mc's also ponder?

RE: [computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread House, Jason J.
>this might be a counterproductive idea, >but does anyone who mc's also ponder? I think I've heard that valkyra ponders. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

[computer-go] Slow KGS computer Go Tournament idea

2006-12-20 Thread steve uurtamo
hi, this might be a counterproductive idea, but does anyone who mc's also ponder? s. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ computer-

Re: [computer-go] Anchor Player

2006-12-20 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
Increasing komi is much easier than placing stores, but a much weaker representation of how go games are actually played in the real world. cheers stuart On 12/15/06, Hideki Kato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Increasing KOMI is much easier than placing stones, right? Jacques Basaldúa‚³‚ñ <[EMAIL