[Moderator - undocumented API discussion and this thread] Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-03 Thread Scott Anguish
> I think I looked into this ages ago and managed to get something working by > defining this undocumented method in the parent view: > > > Obviously, with it being undocumented, the usual caveats apply. > Including that undocumented methods are not to be discussed here, period. That should

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Chris Suter
Hi, On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: It's not easy. > > 1. If you retrieve a NSButton with the official API, you will not be able > to get the mouse over effect. This is a bug since Mac OS X 10.4 and it has > still not been fixed in Mac OS X. > > 2. The NSButton Apple uses for

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2010-09-02 Thread Scott Anguish
I thought I had been fairly clear about that. Even though this answer is technical. UI discussion like this just isn’t appropriate. What iTunes does if it isn’t HIG compliant and you feel strongly, file a bug. There was a reason the UI discussion list was closed. On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:07 AM, I

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Lee Ann Rucker
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Daniel DeCovnick wrote: > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:07 AM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: > >> >> 2. The NSButton Apple uses for NSWindow buttons are not simple NSButtons. >> And you can not display the mouse over version of the button rendering (as >> far as I've tried and Ap

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Daniel DeCovnick
On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:07 AM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: > > 2. The NSButton Apple uses for NSWindow buttons are not simple NSButtons. And > you can not display the mouse over version of the button rendering (as far as > I've tried and Apple's DTS was not able to provide a solution either). > Apparen

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Tony Romano
The controls used in the title bar are NSThemeWidgets and not your standard button. It appears that many functions are overridden to control behavior. Your best best is to hide the standard controls and place your own buttons there. This is what I have done for my Inspector Panel. Tony Romano

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Graham Cox
On 02/09/2010, at 9:35 AM, Graham Cox wrote: > > On 02/09/2010, at 5:32 AM, Fritz Anderson wrote: > >> Assume anything you see in iTunes, and don't see in the API, is a custom >> implementation > > > Isn't this a feature of Carbon? That supported side title bars on utility > windows with ve

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Graham Cox
On 02/09/2010, at 5:32 AM, Fritz Anderson wrote: > Assume anything you see in iTunes, and don't see in the API, is a custom > implementation Isn't this a feature of Carbon? That supported side title bars on utility windows with vertical buttons, but Cocoa doesn't. I'm not sure if iTunes is s

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-02 Thread Iceberg-Dev
On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:28 AM, John C. Randolph wrote: On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: Top left, the traffic lights have been turned to the vertical. Is this something new or was this easy to do before? Is it just a custom implementation, or? It's pretty easy to implement

Re: [Moderator] Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread Michael Ash
I don't mean to cause trouble, but I just want to make sure I understand this. Asking about how to implement a particular UI look is off-topic for cocoa-dev? Mike On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Scott Anguish wrote: > Not appropriate to the list folks. > > UI issues are defined by the HIG. They

[Moderator] Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread Scott Anguish
Not appropriate to the list folks. UI issues are defined by the HIG. They’re not to be discussed here. Thanks Scott On Sep 1, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: > Top left, the traffic lights have been turned to the vertical. Is this > something new or was this easy to do before? Is i

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread Fritz Anderson
On 1 Sep 2010, at 10:15 PM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: > Top left, the traffic lights have been turned to the vertical. Is this > something new or was this easy to do before? Is it just a custom > implementation, or? They always had it that way on the zoomed-in version of the window. Assume anythin

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread John Joyce
On Sep 1, 2010, at 10:28 PM, John C. Randolph wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: > >> Top left, the traffic lights have been turned to the vertical. Is this >> something new or was this easy to do before? Is it just a custom >> implementation, or? > > If you miniatur

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread John C. Randolph
On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: > Top left, the traffic lights have been turned to the vertical. Is this > something new or was this easy to do before? Is it just a custom > implementation, or? If you miniaturized the iTunes 9 window, the window controls are vertical. Not su

Re: iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread John Joyce
Custom implementation. The mini player view always had a custom implementation. On Sep 1, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: > Top left, the traffic lights have been turned to the vertical. Is this > something new or was this easy to do before? Is it just a custom > implementation, or? >

iTunes 10 UI

2010-09-01 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
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