On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote:
Yeah, if only there were an app that would let users look inside
installer packages... It would ease their troubled minds, so perhaps
it could be called "Peaceful" or something like that... :-)
Yup, and a big reason I wrote it was to get ar
whether it is an issue of trust or not isn't really relevant to this
list. As I said, this isn't to be debated here.
I'll see about the documentation issue, but if we're not talking
about how to construct an DMG, or installer, or the docs about it, it
is _off topic_.
On 10-Sep-08, at 12
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Charles Srstka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> Anyway, if Mac software starts heading back down the road to everything
> having an installer, the appeal of the Mac platform vs. Windows will be
> severely diminished in my eyes.
I agree with you to a point, but... "s
In my mind, the installer issue is an issue of trust.
Do you trust the "installer" of an application to install the
application in the best interest of the user. Do you trust that the
installer won't install things you don't want. Do you trust that the
installer provides a way to uninstall the app
probably best not to debate this particular aspect of things...
As I said, I'll about getting this clarified in the docs, and a
consistent message in it.
On 10-Sep-08, at 3:40 AM, Charles Srstka wrote:
On Sep 9, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
The poster didn't say why he assumes
On Sep 9, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
The poster didn't say why he assumes the Software Delivery Guide to
be more
authoritative. The only evidence I'm aware of is that the Software
Delivery
Guide was last updated over two years ago, in July 2006, before
Leopard was
released. The
> I must agree with this paragraph whole-heartedly - my single favorite thing
> about OS X is the way so many applications can be installed by dragging a
> simple icon somewhere, and can be uninstalled by dragging that same icon to
> the Trash. No need to worry about an installer dumping crap where
It is definitely a mixed message... It needs to be at the very least
consistent. I've raised it with someone and will attempt to pursue it.
As bbum said, the issues with Installer packages are the need for
authentication, and the inability to specify where it should be
installed if it is a
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Jerry Krinock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2008 Sep, 09, at 11:18, Charles Srstka wrote:
>
>> On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
>>
>>> Apple currently recommends that ALL applications be delivered in the form
>>> of
>>> an installer. See the "Pac
on 2008-09-09 4:16 PM, David Melgar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (quoting an
earlier poster, I think):
>> Here's what Apple says in the Software Delivery Guide (which I'd
>> assume to be more authoritative about which option you should use
>> than the PackageMaker manual),...
The poster didn't say
On Sep 9, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Jerry Krinock wrote:
Charles, it may appear to have a more authoritative perspective, but
it was last revised a year earlier, in July 2006. Therefore, I put
my faith the document that Bill Cheeseman referred to instead.
Manual Installs are Out. Installers are I
On 2008 Sep, 09, at 11:18, Charles Srstka wrote:
On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
Apple currently recommends that ALL applications be delivered in
the form of
an installer. See the "PackageMaker User Guide," last revised in
July 2007:
Here's what Apple says in the Softwa
I agree. Being able to install applications in unprivelaged locations
is one of the best qualities of mac os x.
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On Sep 9, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Charles Srstka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
on 2008-09-08 11:31 PM, Chris Markl
On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
on 2008-09-08 11:31 PM, Chris Markle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd prefer to ship this as a DMG... But if I understand DMG-based
delivery correctly, the idea is that Mac users are used to this and
"know" to copy the application bundle to the
Am 09.09.2008 um 12:53 schrieb Bill Cheeseman:
on 2008-09-08 11:31 PM, Chris Markle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd prefer to ship this as a DMG... But if I understand DMG-based
delivery correctly, the idea is that Mac users are used to this and
"know" to copy the application bundle to the Ap
on 2008-09-08 11:31 PM, Chris Markle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd prefer to ship this as a DMG... But if I understand DMG-based
> delivery correctly, the idea is that Mac users are used to this and
> "know" to copy the application bundle to the Applications folder.
Apple currently recommends
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Peter N Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1 Put the PDFs in the Resources folder in the app, and add Help menu entries
> to display them.
Pro Tools does this. It's incredibly frustrating to have to launch
the app just to get at the documentation. I happen to know
At 20:31 -0700 8/9/08, Chris Markle wrote:
In the application folder I am referring to is
the application bundle, some PDFs (doc) and a Plugins folder with one
plugin bundle in it. I think the application expects the plugins to be
in this specific place i.e., the Plugins folder in the application
On Sep 8, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Chris Markle wrote:
I'd prefer to ship this as a DMG... But if I understand DMG-based
delivery correctly, the idea is that Mac users are used to this and
"know" to copy the application bundle to the Applications folder. But
I need the user to copy the application fold
I'm certainly no expert but...
Application bundles are just directories which some special
characteristics that makes Finder hide the fact that its a directory
to make it look like an application. Finder just looks at any
directory that ends in .app and thinks its an application. It then
looks insi
Hi Folks,
(Not super saavy about Mac OS X here so bear with me please...)
On the subject of DMG's... I inherited a software product that
currently ships using some moldy-oldy version of the Wise installer. I
think basically all it does is put the application _folder_ into the
Applications folder.
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