Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Jason Coco
On Jun 3, 2008, at 23:03 , Michael Ash wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Kyle Sluder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is extremely unlikely to occur in practice. Apple is sensible enough to, in these sorts of circumstances, make these changes depending on which SDK you're compiling agai

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Michael Ash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that silently upgrading files when opening is the last thing > you'd want in this case. A file saved using FooApp 1.2 on 10.6 should > still work in FooApp 1.2 on 10.5. If you destroy my files so that they > no longer wo

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Michael Ash
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Kyle Sluder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Charles Srstka > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It also >> means that even for a Mac-only app you could end up with this really weird >> situation where an app running on a later version of OS

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Nick Zitzmann
On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Ilan Volow wrote: But for the long term, the mac development community outside of Apple really needs to come up with their own ORM/persistance framework that can target a number of difference storage technologies (PostgreSQL, MySQL, SQLite), and provides adequat

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Ilan Volow
I'd suggest you check out QuickLite http://www.webbotech.com/ for the time being. But for the long term, the mac development community outside of Apple really needs to come up with their own ORM/persistance framework that can target a number of difference storage technologies (PostgreSQL,

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Charles Srstka
Thank you for your feedback. On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Ben Trumbull wrote: 1) The file format for saved files. I'd rather not make some proprietary/closed Microsoft-ish thing - I'd like it to be possible for other programs to read/write my file format, including hypothetical programs that mig

re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Ben Trumbull
1) The file format for saved files. I'd rather not make some proprietary/closed Microsoft-ish thing - I'd like it to be possible for other programs to read/write my file format, including hypothetical programs that might get written for other platforms so that my file format could possibly be read

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Charles Srstka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's what I was afraid of. So it seems that by using CoreData, one loses > all control over his or her app's file format, which is a shame. There are plenty of circumstances in which you don't have control over the docu

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread mmalc crawford
On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Charles Srstka wrote: So it seems that by using CoreData, one loses all control over his or her app's file format, which is a shame. Although this w

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Charles Srstka
On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Charles Srstka <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 1) The file format for saved files. I'd rather not make some proprietary/closed Microsoft-ish thing - I'd like it to be possible for other programs to read/write my file f

Re: CoreData file format stability

2008-06-03 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Charles Srstka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) The file format for saved files. I'd rather not make some > proprietary/closed Microsoft-ish thing - I'd like it to be possible for > other programs to read/write my file format, including hypothetical programs > that mi