Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-04 Thread Saurabh Garg
Sorry if this is tangential to the topic at hand, but I was wondering if there are any recommendations for an 'expert' level reference for graphics programming on both AppKit and UIKit. So far I have tried Bill Dudney's and Marcus Zarra's Core Animation books, but feel that there's more to it th

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
Well, I’m part of the trio. But I always feel bad that they don’t get the credit they really deserve. :-) On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Max Stottrop wrote: > OK, I'll keep this in mind. I just saw your name at Amazon, so i thought > you'd be the author. > > Am 04.04.2011 um 06:18 schrieb Scott

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Howard Siegel
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 21:19, Scott Anguish wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Howard Siegel wrote: > > > Would you say to get Cocoa Programming by Anguish, Buck, & Yacktman > (circa > > Sept 2002), or get Cocoa Programming Developer's Handbook by David > Chisnall > > (circa Jan 2010), which

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Max Stottrop
OK, I'll keep this in mind. I just saw your name at Amazon, so i thought you'd be the author. Am 04.04.2011 um 06:18 schrieb Scott Anguish : > > On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Max Stottrop wrote: > >> I'd also recommend Cocoa Programming by Scott Anguish. But Steves >> recommendation is a great

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
No, not at all. I had nothing to do with the book. I didn’t even get a pre-release copy to read. I even bought my copy. (Although I think Erik offered to send me one) I try desperately not to read third party books that cover areas I do until I’ve done so. I don’t want to be influenced, even b

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Dave DeLong
Having been an avid reader of his blog, I highly recommend Mike Ash's "The Complete Friday Q&A: Volume 1", though I'm not sure if it's available in printed form: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004KZQ0LO Dave On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote: > Hi. I need to have a good book

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
We try and do that in the doc now. If it falls short, tell us, be specific, and constructive is possible. On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Luther Baker wrote: > I have and like Chisnall's book - but I wouldn't describe it as > >> BIG, DIFFICULT and ... HARDCORE > > I think Chisnall cover's a lot o

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Howard Siegel wrote: > Would you say to get Cocoa Programming by Anguish, Buck, & Yacktman (circa > Sept 2002), or get Cocoa Programming Developer's Handbook by David Chisnall > (circa Jan 2010), which according to Amazon is the "newer version" of the > book??? It is

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Max Stottrop wrote: > I'd also recommend Cocoa Programming by Scott Anguish. But Steves > recommendation is a great choice, too. > I always clarify this. My name is first because of the “A”. Erik and Don are the ones who did the heaviest lifting in my opinion. >

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
John’s kind. A) You’d be hard pressed to find it in any form other than electronic. Even I only have a single copy. I think Erik hoarded the last few. b) It is 8+ years old. A lot of it is dated in that new additional have been made to those classes. c) As John said, it doesn’t cover new capabil

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Howard Siegel
No fair You have a vested interest ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) - h On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 20:49, Scott Anguish wrote: > I’d second that. > > On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote: > > > I am told that buck and yacktman's cocoa design patterns is a good source > of > > interview questions fo

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
I’d second that. On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote: > I am told that buck and yacktman's cocoa design patterns is a good source of > interview questions for Cocoa > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, John Pannell > wrote: > >> Even though it is getting on in age, I really like A

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Luther Baker
I have and like Chisnall's book - but I wouldn't describe it as > BIG, DIFFICULT and ... HARDCORE I think Chisnall cover's a lot of ground - has a lot of breadth - but isn't necessarily a deep dive into the API. I miss a big Cocoa reference like the old superbible

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Howard Siegel
Would you say to get Cocoa Programming by Anguish, Buck, & Yacktman (circa Sept 2002), or get Cocoa Programming Developer's Handbook by David Chisnall (circa Jan 2010), which according to Amazon is the "newer version" of the book??? - h On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:01, John Pannell wrote: > Even th

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote: > Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C using > the cocoa. I read the beginner books like "... for absolute beginner", > "starting to program with...". > > But now, I need a book for professional. Book tha

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-02 Thread Max Stottrop
I'd also recommend Cocoa Programming by Scott Anguish. But Steves recommendation is a great choice, too. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000212NUM/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-2135721-8610619?ref_=sr_1_7&s=books&qid=1301687411&sr=1-7 Am 02.04.2011 um 21:58 schrieb Steven Woolgar : >> But now, I need

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-02 Thread Steven Woolgar
> But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and is > HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot of > thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right? Cocoa Design Patterns:

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-01 Thread Scott Ellsworth
I am told that buck and yacktman's cocoa design patterns is a good source of interview questions for Cocoa On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, John Pannell wrote: > Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and > Yacktman's Cocoa Programming... > > > http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa

Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-01 Thread John Pannell
Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and Yacktman's Cocoa Programming... http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301687411&sr=1-7 Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough look a