Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-18 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 18, 2015, at 12:16 , Lee Ann Rucker wrote: > > Hmm... it's the same path as the big button Ah, I see what happened. I didn’t realize that the Big Button was a separate choice, I thought it was a picture that illustrated what the list entries meant. Why? Because my selection color is set

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-18 Thread Lee Ann Rucker
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2015, at 21:03 , Charles Srstka wrote: >> >> I can personally vouch for Mountain Lion running well in VMWare. Where it >> gets hard is when you are running Snow Leopard or earlier, and not for any >> technological reason—

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-18 Thread Alex Zavatone
Hy, that's a nice little tip. Thanks, man. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2015, at 2:31 AM, Charles Srstka wrote: >> On Nov 18, 2015, at 1:22 AM, Quincey Morris >> wrote: >> >>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 23:13 , Charles Srstka >> > wrote: >>> >>> Oh, sorry, I

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Charles Srstka
> On Nov 18, 2015, at 1:22 AM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2015, at 23:13 , Charles Srstka > wrote: >> >> Oh, sorry, I didn’t mean to insult with the “without the quotes” bit. > > No, that wasn’t it. When I read your post, I fell over laughing at ‘T

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 23:13 , Charles Srstka wrote: > > Oh, sorry, I didn’t mean to insult with the “without the quotes” bit. No, that wasn’t it. When I read your post, I fell over laughing at ‘Type ⌘-Shift-G, then “NameOfApp.app/Contents”’, because the chances of my remembering that are about z

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Charles Srstka
> On Nov 18, 2015, at 12:19 AM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2015, at 22:11 , Charles Srstka > wrote: >> >> Type ⌘-Shift-G, then “NameOfApp.app/Contents”, without the quotes, into the >> resulting sheet. > > I see. It’s nice to know that developers

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 22:11 , Charles Srstka wrote: > > Type ⌘-Shift-G, then “NameOfApp.app/Contents”, without the quotes, into the > resulting sheet. I see. It’s nice to know that developers can do standup too. ;) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-de

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Charles Srstka
> On Nov 18, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2015, at 21:47 , Charles Srstka > wrote: >> >> I think what I did was go to File -> New, choose “Install from disc or >> image”, and choose the InstallESD.dmg file that’s inside the Mountai

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 21:47 , Charles Srstka wrote: > > I think what I did was go to File -> New, choose “Install from disc or > image”, and choose the InstallESD.dmg file that’s inside the Mountain Lion > installer (I think it was still bootable back then At one point I got there, or somewhere

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 17, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Quincey Morris wrote: > > I ended up going with VMWare (because Lee Ann, not because I have anything > against Parallels). Ah, I didn’t realize one of our contributors here worked at VMWare. Well, all the more reason to use it. I’ve been for years, and have never

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 21:03 , Charles Srstka wrote: > > I can personally vouch for Mountain Lion running well in VMWare. Where it > gets hard is when you are running Snow Leopard or earlier, and not for any > technological reason—those versions are artificially blocked from running in > a virtua

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Charles Srstka
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > Yes, I was thinking that Parallels or VMWare was my next option, but nothing > in their product information says anything definitive about getting a VM with > an older OS version on it. If I have to *install* the OS, then I’m stuck wit

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Maxthon Chan
Quincey: Two points: 1) Your machine should be no newer than OS X 10.8.5 or driver issue will happen. 2) You need to create an install media (wiping it in the process) and perform an fresh install (wiping the partition in the process). Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2015, at 08:50, Quincey M

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Maxthon Chan
For me the installation media is always an SD card in the built-in card reader (which is usually faster than USB if the card itself is fast enough) Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2015, at 09:52, Quincey Morris > wrote: > >> On Nov 17, 2015, at 17:42 , Shane Stanley wrote: >> >> Does this

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Alex Zavatone
VM Ware? I'm running 10.6.8 on this Mac, 10.5.whatever on another and keep a few external HDs around and spare Macs and install images for this purpose. On Nov 17, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > Yeah, Apple really make it hard to set up older OS installs for dev testing. > > If you co

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 17:52 , Quincey Morris wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2015, at 17:42 , Shane Stanley > wrote: >> >> Does this help? >> >> > > > > I’ll try it a bit later, but i

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 17:42 , Shane Stanley wrote: > > Does this help? > > > I’ll try it a bit later, but it seems to be an answer. I’d assume, though, that I need *two* empty disks for this — one to hold the

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Shane Stanley
On 18 Nov 2015, at 11:50 AM, Quincey Morris wrote: > > I want to install 10.8.5 somewhere, to debug an app compatibility issue on > that OS, but I can’t seem to figure out how. Does this help? -- Shane Stanley _

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Sandor Szatmari
Can you make a bootable USB drive from the installer? Boot of the USB and install from there. Sandor On Nov 17, 2015, at 7:50 PM, Quincey Morris wrote: > I want to install 10.8.5 somewhere, to debug an app compatibility issue on > that OS, but I can’t seem to figure out how. > > I have an

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Graham Cox
> On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:30 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > > N.B. The USB boot drive even works on a Windows PC to make a “hackintosh”, so > should work on a real Mac. > AHHH!!! I just remembered something. I needed a utility called ‘UniBeast’ to make the USB stick originally. It probably does som

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Graham Cox
> On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:21 PM, Quincey Morris > wrote: > > No. It’s no listed as a disk I can start up from. > > OK, that’s kind of weird, because I just made a boot disk on a USB stick by simply copying the installer onto it, and it shows as a bootable drive. Admittedly that’s with a new

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Roland King
> > Yes, I was thinking that Parallels or VMWare was my next option, but nothing > in their product information says anything definitive about getting a VM with > an older OS version on it. If I have to *install* the OS, then I’m stuck with > the same problem. I assume it’s doable. > __

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 17, 2015, at 17:02 , Graham Cox wrote: > > If you copy the old installer to the hard disk partition and set it as the > boot drive and reboot, does that work? No. It’s no listed as a disk I can start up from. There might be something I can do by restarting with the Option key, and using

Re: Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Graham Cox
Yeah, Apple really make it hard to set up older OS installs for dev testing. If you copy the old installer to the hard disk partition and set it as the boot drive and reboot, does that work? The installers are (I believe) designed to run with no OS at all. —Graham > On 18 Nov 2015, at 11:

Installing older OS X

2015-11-17 Thread Quincey Morris
I want to install 10.8.5 somewhere, to debug an app compatibility issue on that OS, but I can’t seem to figure out how. I have an empty hard disk I can use, but there’s nothing installed on it. I’ve got the Mountain Lion installer app from the App Store, but it won’t run under El Capitan. (It’s