Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-19 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Ulf Dunkel wrote: > Hi Gerriet. > >> The previous version just used Utf-8 when the current encoding was not >> good enough. >> But now I have decided to give uses a choice of applicable encodings. > > So you decided to make the user stop to think about encodings. W

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-19 Thread Bayes Scott F
If there is one "master" stringEncoding, then perhaps an Export… item would make sense. No need to proliferate windows, etc. ScottB (noob to the list, not to the Mac or OS X dev) On Sep 17, 2011, at 19:59, Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: > My app had (before Lion) a Menu Item Save As... which brough

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-19 Thread Ulf Dunkel
Hi Gerriet. The previous version just used Utf-8 when the current encoding was not good enough. But now I have decided to give uses a choice of applicable encodings. So you decided to make the user stop to think about encodings. Why? As a user I would be glad if I hadn't even to worry about

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-18 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Sep 18, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > Save As is used for saving as a different format - not just in many apps, but > by default if you have NSDocument set up just so. I'm not sure how that > behaviour is handled with Lion's autosave enabled, but in 10.6 and earlier, > Save As autom

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-18 Thread Graham Cox
Save As is used for saving as a different format - not just in many apps, but by default if you have NSDocument set up just so. I'm not sure how that behaviour is handled with Lion's autosave enabled, but in 10.6 and earlier, Save As automatically adds a format menu if your document supports mul

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-18 Thread Ron Hunsinger
On Sep 18, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: > Peviously if a user wanted a specific encoding, Save As... was the only > choice (with choosing the original filename). That's not what I would expect as a user. "Save as..." means "Save as a different file". I wouldn't expect to use it

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-18 Thread Gerriet M. Denkmann
On 19 Sep 2011, at 02:02, Quincey Morris wrote: > On Sep 18, 2011, at 03:05 , Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: > >> No, this is not what I really want. > > Yet that is what you asked about. :) > >> Think of a file which contains Englisch text, and which has been saved as >> Ascii or Mac Roman. >> N

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-18 Thread Quincey Morris
On Sep 18, 2011, at 03:05 , Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: > No, this is not what I really want. Yet that is what you asked about. :) > Think of a file which contains Englisch text, and which has been saved as > Ascii or Mac Roman. > Now I enter some Chinese characters and it has to be saved in Utf

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-18 Thread Gerriet M. Denkmann
On 18 Sep 2011, at 10:13, Quincey Morris wrote: > On Sep 17, 2011, at 19:59 , Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: > >> My app had (before Lion) a Menu Item Save As... which brought up a save >> panel with a SavePanelAccessory, which contained a PopUpButton with all >> available stringEncodings. >> >>

Re: How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-17 Thread Quincey Morris
On Sep 17, 2011, at 19:59 , Gerriet M. Denkmann wrote: > My app had (before Lion) a Menu Item Save As... which brought up a save panel > with a SavePanelAccessory, which contained a PopUpButton with all available > stringEncodings. > > In Lion there is only Save... (which also shows my SavePane

How to do Save As... in Lion

2011-09-17 Thread Gerriet M. Denkmann
My app had (before Lion) a Menu Item Save As... which brought up a save panel with a SavePanelAccessory, which contained a PopUpButton with all available stringEncodings. In Lion there is only Save... (which also shows my SavePanelAccessory) for new documents. But after this, there is only Save