Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-08 Thread Christian Graus
>> Fair enough. >> I guess that brings this discussion to a close, so thanks to >> everyone who >> responded. It's been very valuable to me, even if it didn't go in the >> direction I was hoping. It's certainly convinced me that our >> toolbar needs >> to go, although what we replace it with, I h

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Rob Keniger
On 08/02/2009, at 1:16 PM, Seth Willits wrote: Fair enough. I guess that brings this discussion to a close, so thanks to everyone who responded. It's been very valuable to me, even if it didn't go in the direction I was hoping. It's certainly convinced me that our toolbar needs to go, a

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Seth Willits
On Feb 7, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Christian Graus wrote: Fair enough. I guess that brings this discussion to a close, so thanks to everyone who responded. It's been very valuable to me, even if it didn't go in the direction I was hoping. It's certainly convinced me that our toolbar needs to go,

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Christian Graus
Fair enough. I guess that brings this discussion to a close, so thanks to everyone who responded. It's been very valuable to me, even if it didn't go in the direction I was hoping. It's certainly convinced me that our toolbar needs to go, although what we replace it with, I have no idea at this s

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Nick Zitzmann
On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Christian Graus wrote: Well, our prospective Mac users are all in a niche market, they have all seen the marketing for our windows version, and most of them are actually *using* our windows version. So, they WILL be aware of our windows version, they ARE using

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Christian Graus
In short, applications that are ported to the platform with the express intent of maintaining their look and feel from Windows do little more than treat OS X users as second-class citizens. No one likes paying money for that feeling so at the end of the day, I doubt the port will see even remote s

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Joar Wingfors
On Feb 7, 2009, at 1:53 AM, Graham Cox wrote: I don't see us using a standard toolbar, our big fear will be that we don't want to lose the pizzaz we have under Windows and have a bog standard looking Mac app, it will just look like a poor cousin of our windows app then. It. Doesn't. Matt

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Christian Graus
Well, our prospective Mac users are all in a niche market, they have all seen the marketing for our windows version, and most of them are actually *using* our windows version. So, they WILL be aware of our windows version, they ARE using the Windows version and waiting for the Mac version, and whe

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Graham Cox
On 7 Feb 2009, at 8:46 pm, Christian Graus wrote: I don't see us using a standard toolbar, our big fear will be that we don't want to lose the pizzaz we have under Windows and have a bog standard looking Mac app, it will just look like a poor cousin of our windows app then. It. Doesn't

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Christian Graus
ating, animated toolbar is shown. I don't see us using a standard toolbar, our big fear will be that we don't want to lose the pizzaz we have under Windows and have a bog standard looking Mac app, it will just look like a poor cousin of our windows app then. But, talking to Kyle today ha

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Marini
In short, applications that are ported to the platform with the express intent of maintaining their look and feel from Windows do little more than treat OS X users as second-class citizens. No one likes paying money for that feeling so at the end of the day, I doubt the port will see even

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-06 Thread Graham Cox
On 7 Feb 2009, at 8:43 am, Christian Graus wrote: In my app, I want a toolbar like the one at the bottom of OSX, with icons that resize as I move the mouse over them. I want the whole toolbar to hide and to scroll up into view from the bottom of my window when I move my mouse over the li

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-06 Thread Christian Graus
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Christian Graus > wrote: > > We prefer users to use our app full screen. we're copying our Windows > > program, so we really don't have a lot of room to rethink this stuff, and > > what we've done so far, was a

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-06 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Christian Graus wrote: > We prefer users to use our app full screen. we're copying our Windows > program, so we really don't have a lot of room to rethink this stuff, and > what we've done so far, was a success in the windows world. I am trying to > make sure we m

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-06 Thread Christian Graus
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Christian Graus > wrote: > > In my app, I want a toolbar like the one at the bottom of OSX, with icons > > that resize as I move the mouse over them. > > The user interface element you're referring to is called

Re: Animated toolbar

2009-02-06 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Christian Graus wrote: > In my app, I want a toolbar like the one at the bottom of OSX, with icons > that resize as I move the mouse over them. The user interface element you're referring to is called the Dock. > I want the whole toolbar to hide > and to scroll up

Animated toolbar

2009-02-06 Thread Christian Graus
Hi again In my app, I want a toolbar like the one at the bottom of OSX, with icons that resize as I move the mouse over them. I want the whole toolbar to hide and to scroll up into view from the bottom of my window when I move my mouse over the little edge that would be always visible. I've been