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Sigh.
All the documentation links for Apple Documentation in the document I just
posted are likely out of date.
The Apple Developer Connection’s Mac OS X Dev Center is the place to find
documentation online http://developer.apple.com/
Sorry about that folks.
_
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On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Devon Ferns wrote:
I agree. It's not like what's in the SDK is super secret. Anyone
can download it.
Yeah, anyone can download it, but in order to download it, you have
to go through the process of accepting a license agreement that
includes a NDA restrictio
On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Devon Ferns wrote:
I agree. It's not like what's in the SDK is super secret. Anyone
can download it.
Devon
You can only download it after accepting to the confidentiality
agreement.
Believe it or not, there are people who can't, or won't, download it
b
On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Tom Harrington wrote:
Oh, they do allow it, despite what the moderators here say.
I'm not just making these rules up as I go because it's what I want.
These are the rules provided by WWDR and others.
You just
have to use the appropriate Apple forum. Apple's s
I agree. It's not like what's in the SDK is super secret. Anyone can
download it.
Devon
Tom Harrington wrote:
Oh, they do allow it, despite what the moderators here say. You just
have to use the appropriate Apple forum. Apple's support forums have
a "developer" section with no shortage o
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Jens Alfke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26 Jun '08, at 11:36 AM, Hamish Allan wrote:
>
>> What we really need is for the cocoa-dev list admin page to require
>> new subscribers to type in the phrase "I will not make posts about the
>> iPhone or Snow Leopard" :)
On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
No, you've bought into the whole reality distortion field. What we
_really_ need is for Apple to allow developer discussion of NDA'ed
products. If there were an *Ph*n* mailing list on this server, and
if that list were mentioned in the SDK or
On 26 Jun '08, at 11:36 AM, Hamish Allan wrote:
What we really need is for the cocoa-dev list admin page to require
new subscribers to type in the phrase "I will not make posts about the
iPhone or Snow Leopard" :)
No, you've bought into the whole reality distortion field. What we
_really_ n
On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Hamish Allan wrote:
Making these general posts repeatedly seems to me to be pretty futile.
Those who post iPhone questions here are presumably those who have
signed up five minutes beforehand for the purpose. The fact that they
post without reading the FAQ or perfo
> What we really need is for the cocoa-dev list admin page to require
> new subscribers to type in the phrase "I will not make posts about the
> iPhone or Snow Leopard" :)
You know, I think that's a good idea. Either there, or where downloading the
iPhone SDK, rather than just click to acknowledge
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Scott Anguish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Discussing NDA Projects (Snow Leopard and iPhone OS) and Private API
>
>
> This list is not an appropriate forum for the discussion of issues that are
>
Discussing NDA Projects (Snow Leopard and iPhone OS) and Private API
This list is not an appropriate forum for the discussion of issues
that are covered by non-disclosure. This includes Snow Leopard and
iPhone OS 2.0. Doing
Please stay on-topic
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Cocoa-dev should not be the first place you turn when y
Please stay on-topic
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While Apple engineers often subscribe to the list and answer
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Please stay on-topic
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I wanted to point out that lately the vast majority of admin work has
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cases these are either large chunks of source, entire projects
(345Mb!!), or untrimmed HTML messages.
Please keep your messages under 25k and in plain t
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