Re: [Coapp-developers] Fwd: [Announce] Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring Organizations for GSoC 2012

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Schultz
Garrett, I'm also interested in mentoring. Eric On Feb 28, 2012 3:17 PM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: > Thanks Andreas, > > ** ** > > I’m going to push out an update to coapp & devtools today, and then I’m > going to write up our proposals. > > ** ** > > You mentioned that you could be inte

[Coapp-developers] CoApp (or Outercurve) and Google Summer of Code

2012-02-04 Thread Eric Schultz
I know last year there was an interest for CoApp to apply to Google Summer of Code but it didn't coalesce into an application. Google just announced that Summer of Code is returning again this year and I would love for us to become a mentoring organization. CoApp would receive recognition from the

Re: [Coapp-developers] Codesigning for the masses.

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Schultz
A decision was made also to support self created certificates and provide some sort of notification to the user that the certificate isn't from a CA. On Jan 5, 2012 9:16 AM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: > Not Quite. > > Yes, Unsigned packages can not be made. That has always been a line I > was unwi

Re: [Coapp-developers] Codesigning for the masses.

2012-01-04 Thread Eric Schultz
So now that I've followed this thread and finally found a chance to get reply here are my thoughts: What is required for someone to sign CoApp CLA? I don't remember offhand, it's been a while. Certum is probably filled with very nice people but their usability, especially for non-Polish speakers

Re: [Coapp-developers] Website updates

2011-12-30 Thread Eric Schultz
In previous message, replace localhost with coapp.org I assume? On Dec 29, 2011 8:38 PM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: > Added new pages today: > Modifying the webstite: http://localhost/developers/modify-website.html > Transcoding a video using VLC: > http://localhost/developers/encoding-videos.html

Re: [Coapp-developers] Should we have a conference call tomorrow?

2011-12-30 Thread Eric Schultz
I should be around. On Dec 29, 2011 8:44 PM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: > Is anyone going to be around? Can we do a conference call tomorrow? > > Hello? Is this thing on? :) > > Merry New Year! > > G > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~c

Re: [Coapp-developers] Original Photoshop File of CoApp logo

2011-12-23 Thread Eric Schultz
ime, I'll hand code the damn thing up in XAML, > where I know I can tweak the results until I get where I'm going. > > G > ________ > From: Eric Schultz [wwaha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:12 AM > To: Garrett Serack &

[Coapp-developers] Original Photoshop File of CoApp logo

2011-12-23 Thread Eric Schultz
Is the original Photoshop version of the CoApp logo available on GitHub? I'm thinking we REALLY need a vector based version of that and I'm going to see if I can figure something out with that. Eric ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-develop

Re: [Coapp-developers] Idea for package comments/feedback/ratings

2011-09-27 Thread Eric Schultz
Hmm, I didn't realize you can get API access to Disqus without paying but apparently you can. There are some APIs that are restricted to free users. And quite honestly, even developing a commenting system using the Disqus API will take more time than just slapping a web browser control in there. O

Re: [Coapp-developers] Idea for package comments/feedback/ratings

2011-09-22 Thread Eric Schultz
While always a huge fan of anything Chrome, Awesomium has licensing that wouldn't work very well with an open source project. Otherwise, I think it's a very reasonable plan. Eric On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Garrett Serack wrote: > Somewhere down the line (1.0, 1.1 maybe) I have the desire

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp and

2011-08-21 Thread Eric Schultz
Fredrik, Just skimming through this and looking at some of the sample files, I see the use of something along these lines. One issue I see though is that the standard seems incredibly verbose. Every file in a package must be checksummed and must have it's own license defined. Also since our packag

Re: [Coapp-developers] First "Real" CoApp packages are working!

2011-07-30 Thread Eric Schultz
Um, the last two give me a 404 error On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Garrett Serack wrote: > http://coapp.org/install -- installs the coapp package manager (not > really needed explicitly) > > http://coapp.org/coapp.devtools.msi -- the current coapp devtools (ptk, > autopackage, quicktool and

Re: [Coapp-developers] Changes to the design of CoApp

2011-07-25 Thread Eric Schultz
Olaf and Jernej, I had similar questions when Garrett explained it to me. I was dumbfounded for at least 15 minutes at the boneheaded-ness of the the Windows Installer team's decision on this issue. I still have no clue what the heck the people on the Windows Installer team were thinking. Their de

Re: [Coapp-developers] Could someone do a comparison chart between RPM & Apt-get command lines

2011-07-20 Thread Eric Schultz
That seems to be more of a Powershell type thing than a CoApp CLI issue. Perhaps we can look into making cmdlets at some point. Eric On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Adam Baxter wrote: > Please implement tab completion! > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Garrett Serack > wrote: > > I want to

Re: [Coapp-developers] Could someone do a comparison chart between RPM & Apt-get command lines

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Schultz
Is there any way this could be done as a table? Eric On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Mark Stone wrote: > Ok, I've added a comparisons page on our wiki. If Garrett or others > have additional functional they want to compare or just know about, > add the item you want to know about on that page a

[Coapp-developers] Windows Library Loading Changes

2011-07-12 Thread Eric Schultz
Hey all, I just looked at the security advisory and the new Windows APIs for setting default search directories for DLLs (http://support.microsoft.com/KB/2533623). I skimmed them looking for a way in which this affects CoApp and nothing jumps out at me. At the same time, I'm no expert on the Windo

Re: [Coapp-developers] Ptk exception

2011-06-09 Thread Eric Schultz
ennis-it@lists.launchpad.net[mailto: > coapp-developers-bounces+trevor=dennis-it@lists.launchpad.net] *On > Behalf Of *Eric Schultz > *Sent:* Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:19 AM > *To:* Garrett Serack > *Cc:* coapp-developers > *Subject:* Re: [Coapp-developers] Ptk exception >

Re: [Coapp-developers] Ptk exception

2011-06-09 Thread Eric Schultz
} > > > > And tell me what you see… something has got an illegal character in some > search path > > > > *From:* coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft.com@ > lists.launchpad.net [mailto:coapp-developers-bounces+garretts= > microsoft@lists.launchpa

[Coapp-developers] Ptk exception

2011-06-09 Thread Eric Schultz
I've been having this problem with ptk in previous versions and now no matter what I do. It clearly works for others so I'm not sure what's going on. Anytime I run ptk, I get an exception which I've attached to this message. Also, I've attached the input file. (Yes this was to make a fork of bzip2

Re: [Coapp-developers] A new member in CoApp

2011-06-02 Thread Eric Schultz
Welcome Tim! We're happy to have you on board! *throws a rock* On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Garrett Serack wrote: > I’d also like to introduce a new member of our team; Tim Rogers. > > > > Tim is a new full time employee at Microsoft who started this week, and as > he just found out yesterd

Re: [Coapp-developers] Shallow-forking contest!

2011-06-02 Thread Eric Schultz
I think it's a cool idea! As for prizes, Github itself might be someone to talk to. In a lot of cases this will be using the fork functionality and that's Github's claim to fame, so to speak. Hell they might even be willing to promote it on their blog. I think the issue of the type of prizes is d

Re: [Coapp-developers] Shallow-forking contest!

2011-06-02 Thread Eric Schultz
I had no idea that Github issue tracking was that awesome. DAMN. I love it here :) On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Garrett Serack wrote: > Wow. Github’s issue tracking is freakin’ awesome. > > > > Everyone: WATCH THE VIDEO. (Especially *Elizabeth*, who seems to uncover > bugs by just breathing.

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp logo?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Schultz
I have a personal preference for a color scheme that is darker like Fredrik's more. That's my two cents. On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Dj Gilcrease wrote: > I like Garrets base, but the colors in Fredriks, so I mashed them together > ___ Mailing lis

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp logo?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Schultz
*no matter On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Eric Schultz wrote: > I very much like the font and color Fredrik. I wonder if we could use those > rich colors somehow not matter what we come up with. > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Garrett Serack wrote: > >> Hmm. >

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp logo?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Schultz
I very much like the font and color Fredrik. I wonder if we could use those rich colors somehow not matter what we come up with. On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Garrett Serack wrote: > Hmm. > > That's not a bad logo--I'm not sure it's quite right for CoApp either (I'd > like to avoid actual lett

Re: [Coapp-developers] [Part2] some comments on MinGW and Gnulib and Shallow-forking a project

2011-05-17 Thread Eric Schultz
Laura, Just want to provide some insight. MSBuild is the executable that can be used to build VS project file from the command line. I wouldn't be surprised if VS does that in the background actually. MSDN has some resources on that I think. Eric On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:41 PM, wrote: > On Mo

[Coapp-developers] Input for Autopackage

2011-04-22 Thread Eric Schultz
All, The input to autopackage currently uses a very basic ini file format. While very simple, it's a little difficult to describe certain things that way. Garrett suggested using something along the lines of the format for his cascading property sheets used in mkSpec. I quickly wrote up a simple e

Re: [Coapp-developers] New CO_VERSION table

2011-04-18 Thread Eric Schultz
Alright we know have a property called COAPP_VERSION with the version number in it. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Garrett Serack wrote: > It's not the years, it's the mileage. > > :D > > ------ > *From:* Eric Schultz [wwaha...@gmail.com

Re: [Coapp-developers] New CO_VERSION table

2011-04-18 Thread Eric Schultz
whole new table... > > G > ------ > *From:* Eric Schultz [wwaha...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2011 3:06 AM > *To:* Garrett Serack; coapp-developers > *Subject:* New CO_VERSION table > > All, > > I'm adding a CO_VERSION t

[Coapp-developers] New CO_VERSION table

2011-04-18 Thread Eric Schultz
All, I'm adding a CO_VERSION table to packages now. It will always contain one row with a column of type "string" and category "Version" called "coapp_version". This, unsurprisingly, will contain the version of CoApp that created the package. Looking forward, there's may be a point where there are

Re: [Coapp-developers] Simulating Symlinks on Windows XP

2011-04-09 Thread Eric Schultz
out. Eric On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 4/7/2011 8:06 PM, Eric Schultz wrote: > > I wonder what effect all this will have on CoApp package installation on > WINE. Obviously > > that not a pressing issue but its probably something to consider go

Re: [Coapp-developers] Simulating Symlinks on Windows XP

2011-04-07 Thread Eric Schultz
his is man's code! > > Given that we have a .NET 4.0 requirement, and Wine doesn't have that... > > G > > From: Eric Schultz [wwaha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:06 PM > To: Garrett Serack > Cc: coapp-developers@

Re: [Coapp-developers] Simulating Symlinks on Windows XP

2011-04-07 Thread Eric Schultz
I wonder what effect all this will have on CoApp package installation on WINE. Obviously that not a pressing issue but its probably something to consider going forward. Eric On Apr 7, 2011 12:27 PM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://laun

Re: [Coapp-developers] Test Message

2011-03-21 Thread Eric Schultz
Of the emergency broadcast system? On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Garrett Serack wrote: > I don't seem to be getting messages anymore. > > This is a test. > > G > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers > Post to : coapp-d

Re: [Coapp-developers] A few quick updates

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Schultz
A bit involved? It is a beautiful process that simply could never be improved upon :) Alright maybe it could be A LITTLE :) On Feb 3, 2011 10:15 AM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: > Howdy folks, > > I'll be publishing our first binaries next week (command line package installer, trace, scan mkPackage to

Re: [Coapp-developers] FYI: Updates and I'm off next week

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Schultz
Translation: Garrett will be responding to messages on the list by Monday night :) On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Garrett Serack wrote: > Just an FYI, I’ve pushed a lot of changes to a lot of the managed > projects (toolkit, etc) > > > > If you have been playing around with the source pull upd

Re: [Coapp-developers] Anyone an expert in MSBuild?

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Schultz
I have a tiny bit when I automated signing a library when it was built but you probably have just as much as me. Eric On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Garrett Serack wrote: > I’m starting on the mkProject tool now (VERY EXCITING!!) :D > > > > I’m wondering if anyone on the list has (extensive/

Re: [Coapp-developers] use of static libs permitted?

2010-10-01 Thread Eric Schultz
Lee, I think that one of the main reasons open source software often uses static libraries, especially on Windows, is that it gets around a lot of the dependency issues. You don't have to worry about dynamically loading a strange version of a dependency library if you never dynamically load librar

Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp questions

2010-09-26 Thread Eric Schultz
John, I'm heading up mkPackage which creates the actual MSI files for CoApp packages. I will be the first person to tell you MSI is a pain to deal with and I can say much of it from first hand experience dealing with it. I wouldn't want anyone to have to make MSI packages by hand which is the reas

Re: [Coapp-developers] W00T: I've got test assemblies to properly demonstrate WinSxS binding policies!

2010-09-10 Thread Eric Schultz
But Rafael, does it use WinSxS? :) On Sep 11, 2010 12:28 AM, "Rivera, Rafael" wrote: > Yep, agreed. My Hello World app can print that xml out too. > > /rafael > > On 9/11/2010 12:33 AM, Nasser Dassi wrote: >> Ahem. That's not proof that you're NOT crazy. That's just proof that >> WinSxS binding p

Re: [Coapp-developers] UPDATE: Building CoApp projects from Source

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Schultz
Is there a command for pulling all the project updates at once? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Jobin Augustine wrote: > Hi Garrett, > > I think we can keep this information in wiki or something like that. > because users like me require frequent reference for setup. > do we already have a pl

Re: [Coapp-developers] UPDATE: Building CoApp projects from Source

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Schultz
Is there a command for pulling all the project updates at once? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Jobin Augustine wrote: > Hi Garrett, > > I think we can keep this information in wiki or something like that. > because users like me require frequent reference for setup. > do we already have a pl

[Coapp-developers] CoApp Package System Modifications

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Schultz
The question I asked about modifying the registry and path information made me think some more about what type of system modifications CoApp packages should be allowed to do. Here are a few I can think of (they pretty much come from the Wix schemas and the relevant elements are in included in paren

Re: [Coapp-developers] Engine APIs required by Bootstrap

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Schultz
Actually, I'm working on mkPackage, not mkProject :) On Sep 1, 2010 4:26 PM, "William A. Rowe Jr." wrote: > On 9/1/2010 12:19 PM, Elizabeth M Smith wrote: >> >> Why not just use the native windows API file functions instead of the C runtime versions - >> this is definitely a windows only product

[Coapp-developers] Package System Modifications

2010-08-30 Thread Eric Schultz
Gang, I've got mkPackage working reasonably well for non-application packages. I'm starting to think about what type of modifications each type of package should be able to perform to the system whether it be adding something to the system PATH variable or creating a variable (like Wix does), regi

[Coapp-developers] Directory Structure

2010-08-22 Thread Eric Schultz
Gang, http://coapp.org/Blueprints/Package_Blueprint/Additional_Notes describes two different install locations for packages. First, one example is: c:\apps\.installed\coapp\zlib\1.2.3 which seems to correspond to: {$VENDOR}\{$PRODUCTNAME}\{$VERSION} However further down the page I see: {$INSTALL

[Coapp-developers] A few more questions...

2010-08-20 Thread Eric Schultz
Hi everyone, hope your weekend is starting well. I've got a few questions for the group. - With a SharedLib will there ever be a file with that role that is NOT part of an assembly? For example, let's say we are installing a package to c:\apps\.installed\coapp\python\2.6.1.1. In this folder, we ha

Re: [Coapp-developers] IA 64

2010-08-20 Thread Eric Schultz
I know that Garrett. :) I just read it wrong. Please everyone, I know that ia64 and x64 are different :) On Aug 20, 2010 8:49 AM, "Garrett Serack" wrote: > ROFL. > > IA64 != x64. > > However x64 == AMD64 == EMT64 == x86-x64. > > g > > From: Eric Schul

Re: [Coapp-developers] IA 64

2010-08-20 Thread Eric Schultz
I misunderstood Garrett reply, I thought he meant x64 packages weren't going to work in general. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Eric Schultz wrote: > > Wait now, what's going on with x64? > &

Re: [Coapp-developers] IA 64

2010-08-20 Thread Eric Schultz
Wait now, what's going on with x64? On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Garrett Serack wrote: > X86 packages *should* run ok. > > X64 packages won't ... IA64 is dead anyway. > > g > > -Original Message- > From: > coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=microsoft@lists.launchpad.net[mailto: >

[Coapp-developers] IA 64

2010-08-20 Thread Eric Schultz
I just wanted to make sure, we're not intending to provide support for IA 64 (Itanium) are we? Eric ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers Post to : coapp-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~coapp-de

[Coapp-developers] Legally including Wix code

2010-08-16 Thread Eric Schultz
This is mainly a question for Garrett but I figured someone else might stumble upon this issue too so I figured I'd send it to all. I'm creating an XSD schema to describe the input xml for mkPackage. For that I want to be able to restrict the type of data entered into certain attributes. These are

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
me version numbers? I think this is why no one uses SxS assemblies, man they're confusing! :) On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Garrett Serack wrote: > Yeah... components in MSI are more fine grained than you think. An install > is almost always made up of many components. > >

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Rivera, Rafael > wrote: > > Oh, sorry. Wow. I just fell into that GUID-being-a-real-GUID trap that was > just talked about moments ago. Yikes. > > /rafael > > > > On 8/12/2010 8:49 PM, Eric Schultz wrote: > > Rafael, > > > > We w

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
My thoughts on ProductCode are just create another 'HUID' but append the word "product" to the name, version, architecture and public key token before hashing. That way every time they build the same package, the ProductCode is also the same. Not really sure how to do for the Guid attribute for ea

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
keeping our required data separate, it makes it easier to > one day abandon MSI (if things came to that). On the other hand, if it’s not > too hard, why not merge them. I’ll let you make the call. > > > > Although, platform, don’t trust the MSI version of that… it’s evil. > >

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
Rafael, We want to be able to provide a consistent ID for a package no matter how many times its built. By using the package name, version, architecture and the publisher's public key token, the same package will always have the same ID. Eric On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Rivera, Rafael wrote

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
> > I don't think we should call this a GUID if you're not using the official > definition of a GUID/UUID from RFC 4122. If I see GUID in documentation, > I'm going to assume I can call a normal GUID creation function to create > one. I think you bring up a good point Trevor. I'm a bit of a stic

Re: [Coapp-developers] Questions, Questions, Questions

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Schultz
Hey gang, One quick question regarding the MSI tables, one little more complex one and some food for thought. - On CO_TAGS, I understand that it holds keywords so what is the type column there for? Are there different types of keywords? - Regarding CO_BINDING_POLICY, as Garrett said this is nee

Re: [Coapp-developers] MSI compression

2010-08-11 Thread Eric Schultz
Ah. Well I know WiX compresses .NET custom actions with any referenced assemblies needed by the action. There's some custom action that they use to handle that I'm sure. Eric On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Eric S

Re: [Coapp-developers] MSI compression

2010-08-11 Thread Eric Schultz
In my experience with simple MSIs that I've zipped, you don't gain very much since the actual files are already compressed. I think custom actions are uncompressed so to the best of my knowledge that'd be the largest non-compressed portion of the MSI. In our case though, we have a single custom act

[Coapp-developers] Getting Involved

2010-07-28 Thread Eric Schultz
Garrett and gang, I've been meaning to actually get involved in developing CoApp over the summer so now I'm actually going to do it! Are there any particular areas/sub-projects that need addressing? Basically I'm asking, what do you need someone to code? Eric _

Re: [Coapp-developers] Code release schedule

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Schultz
Andrew, I'm on Gmail too and had a similar problem. The way around it is to use Reply All instead of Reply. Your message should go to the mailing list. Eric On Jul 26, 2010 11:07 PM, "Andrew Fenn" wrote: > Is there anyway to get the mailing list to show the from address as the list > rather the

[Coapp-developers] Requiring non-CoApp MSI's

2010-06-28 Thread Eric Schultz
I haven't seen this come up in the mailing lists or the wiki but I'm wondering what thought has been put into the usage scenario where a package requires software non-CoApp. The main example in my mind would be a package that requires the newest version of the .NET Framework but the user doesn't cu