Re: Stus-List Keel Smile

2016-03-22 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Doesn't look that bad from what I can tell from your photos. I would say option (a) would be fine and option (b) also after you clean it out and get the surfaces dry...I used an angle grinder on mine, and then applied some 4200 in the groove and then on top of that filled the remaining groove with

Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Tried to tighten my keel bolts to spec today. Can't get any of them to move... at all. Can't tighten, can't loosen. I wouldn't call myself a super strong guy, but I'm 6', 175lbs. and I've certainly loosened a few bolts in my lifetime. These won't budge. Should I just leave them alone? Or sho

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
A couple of thoughts: There are devices called torque multipliers. These devices can often be arranged to brace themselves in the bilge against the walls. A 5:1 multiplier would mean that you would only have to produce 70 ft-lbs of force. Should be easier. Are you on the hard? If not, don't t

Re: Stus-List Fire blankets, beer & wool

2016-03-22 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
It shouldn't be hard to find a pressure regulator for the CO2 tank. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ & Melody via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 23:21 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List Fire blankets, beer & wool Hi

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
My 20 inch adjustable torque wrench tops out at about 120 pounds, so you have a ways to go. You need a bigger wrench – suggest rental. There is a device called a torque multiplier, but I couldn’t find one locally, so added an extension to a 2 foot breaker bar and hauled on it like crazy. Checked

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread schiller via CnC-List
With 20" torque wrench you will need to exert 210-230 lb of force (at the 20 inch mark). More likely 230-260 lb force at about 18" on the torque wrench. A torque multiplier will help as will a longer torque wrench. We used to have to torque the fuse bolts on Laser Guided Bombs to 650 ft-lb.

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
The torque wrench I use for this is 3/4 inch drive and the handle is about 3 1/2 feet long. I bought it used from a retiring heavy equipment mechanic. I have a small collection of extensions to get it just above the floorboards. I would worry about safety using a 3/8 or 1/2 drive that might fa

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
Why do you want to tighten your keel bolts ? Do you have a "smile" If it ain\t broke, dont fix it. I had to replace my washers on my 25, and ended up using a 4 ft extension to take them off. Then I tightened them to what approximately felt right, which was close to the most torque I could give it,

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
True. I just found a 250 ft-lbs torque wrench at Amazon for $55, which is a good price Ahmet 25 C&C Boston, MA On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The torque wrench I use for this is 3/4 inch drive and the handle is > about 3 1/2 fee

Re: Stus-List Keel Smile

2016-03-22 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Remember that most of these joints are bedded with 4200, 5200, or similar. These materials cushion any flex between the keel and the hull. Anything applied over the bedding will likely be less squishy and more brittle (fairing compound, epoxy, barrier coat, bottom paint). I agree, it doesn't look

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thank you guys. Appreciate the help. Sounds like I need to hit Amazon for a torque multiplier and a beefier wrench if I'm going to do this. I was wondering how the heck I was going to get to 350 ft lbs - that's more torque than the chevy 350 I had in my old truck. I started to imagine V8-powere

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Call tool rental shops and see if you can rent a torque multiplier. Also remember that you must first loosen the nut then torque it. Dennis C. On Mar 22, 2016 8:29 AM, "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" wrote: > Tried to tighten my keel bolts to spec today. Can't get any of them to > move... at all. C

Stus-List Polar Diagrams - 1990 C&C 34+ DK

2016-03-22 Thread Tom Vaughan via CnC-List
I am looking for Polar Diagrams for my 1990 C&C 34+ DK. Tom V ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciate

Re: Stus-List C&C Smile

2016-03-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Jason: In 2004 I noticed the smile on my boat, when I hauled out. I could also move the keel, so I knew I had a problem that wouldn't go away. I had the yard drop the keel, and when they flushed out the keel bolt holes, a smelly substance came out (like someone died in there). The forward keel

Re: Stus-List C&C Smile

2016-03-22 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
All puns intended? *The smile never came back. *On you or the boat or both? -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax On 3/22/2016 2:54 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List wrote: Jason: In 2004 I noticed the smile on my boat, when I hauled out. I could also

Re: Stus-List Keel Smile

2016-03-22 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
If those big keel bolts are torqued right I would expect very little "cushioning" to happen so check the torque on the nuts when she's on the hard and adjust to specs also found on the CNC site then do option a or b and go sailing On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: > Re

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Or you will need at least a 4 foot extension on the ratchet just connect that up apply your half your body weight to the pull and u should be good to go but you may only have enough space to get 1 click on the ratchet each pull like was my case on alianna On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Dennis C. via

Re: Stus-List C&C Smile

2016-03-22 Thread ahycrace--- via CnC-List
Al See the C&C photo album story of "Liberty" repair same thing as Jason but more complicated. http://gkolc3.wix.com/liberty Gary Alan Bergen via CnC-List wrote: > Jason: > > In 2004 I noticed the smile on my boat, when I

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Ryan I have had some painful experience with a torque multiplier! Whether tightening or loosening, you should be wary of how much force you are applying to the fastener. Fasteners or sockets can fragment. I would recommend either some pretreatment with penetrating oil, and or heating/cooling.

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps?

2016-03-22 Thread johnr via CnC-List
Always loosen before tightening. Going too strong too early is a recipe for disaster. -Original Message- From: Rick Rohwer via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Rick Rohwer Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2016 9:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel bolt tightening for wimps? Ryan I have had some painfu