Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Bill Bina
I realize you are joking, but for the benefit of those not familiar with Poly-Glow, it is water based and has no appreciable fumes, intoxicating or otherwise.  :-) Bill Bina On 4/2/2014 1:17 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: Mebbe you'

Stus-List Poli -Glo

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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Knowles
Well that sounds boring:) Rich > On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:58, Bill Bina wrote: > > I realize you are joking, but for the benefit of those not familiar with > Poly-Glow, it is water based and has no appreciable fumes, intoxicating or > otherwise. :-) > > Bill Bina > >> On 4/2/2014 1:17 AM, Ric

Re: Stus-List GFCI Outlet

2014-04-02 Thread Prime Interest
There are two ABYC requirements for new boats- one being the GFCI requirement ( 5mA trip specified ) for the receptacles in wet areas and the second being ELCI breakers on the shore power feed which typically have a 30mA trip. Both are required. I installed the Blue Sea ELCI when I was updatin

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2014-04-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Gee ... wouldn't that turn it into a jellyfish? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:16 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail now de-coring C&Cs in PNW Yes, Lee stops by Calypso from t

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread David Knecht
Not realizing that my new boat had Awlgrip, I put Poli-glow on it last spring before launching.  It looked great (as usual) so I have no idea why it is “not recommended”.  Dave David KnechtAries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread dwight
Because it will deteriorate in time and you will have to do it over. With Awlgrip all you really need to do is wash it down well and then if you want a little more do 1 coat of Awlcare, which is really easy to apply as well.should least 20+years at least barring scratches and dings _

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Bill Bina
Poly Glow depends on the slight porosity of aged gelcoat for proper adhesion. It is not advised for brand new boats for the same reason. They are too slick for it to stick. Bill Bina On 4/2/2014 9:56 AM, David Knecht wrote: Not realizing that my new boat had Awlgrip, I put Poli-glow on it last

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread David Knecht
What is the “it” that will deteriorate- the Awlgrip or the Poli-glow.  Either way, I am not sure what to do this spring. I can either strip the Poli-glow and use Awlcare or keep using Poli-glow.  Added to this is the fact that the Awlgrip got badly scratched/scuffed by an unpadded dock last fall (l

Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

2014-04-02 Thread Frederick G Street
Maybe they should just preemptively do it THIS year, and not wait… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > After the village gets sued, next year they will have the lawyer, painted >

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Frederick G Street
But it does go well with rum. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: > Well that sounds boring:) > > Rich > > On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:58, Bill Bina wrote: > >> I realize you are joking,

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Knowles
Everything is good with rum. Rich > On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:57, Frederick G Street wrote: > > But it does go well with rum. > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > >> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: >> >> Well

Stus-List Making booze on your boat

2014-04-02 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Not exactly C&C related but there's always talk about rum and other beverages on here so i thought, as sailors, that you might find this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-S_2YvCoeg I follow them on facebook and youtube. I often watch the videos over dinner. They have it all figured o

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Dennis C.
Which why I chose to paint Touché with Awlcraft rather than Awlgrip. Awlcraft can be more easily repaired and blended than Awlgrip. Although it can be done, painters that can successfully blend Awlgrip are rare. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2014, at

Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

2014-04-02 Thread Wally Bryant
I don't want to sound like an anarchist, because I'm not. Down here, folks would just get together and get a big round red fender ball and tie a hunk of good rope onto it, put a cinder block on the other end, and go toss it over on top of the rock. Nobody is legally responsible, but everybody

Re: Stus-List Making booze on your boat

2014-04-02 Thread Wally Bryant
I like it. Or the women... Sure seems like a lot of trouble, though. (The moonshine, not the women. ) You should cruise Mexico. I don't know about making Tequila vs. buying it. I do know a thing or two about fishing. I've spent an enormous amount of money on fishing gear. The other day

Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib

2014-04-02 Thread Joel Aronson
All, I was thinking of mounting a jib pre-feeder on the foil for the furler, but i'm concerned about the sail chafing when the jib is partially furled. Should I just tie it to the chainplate so it is out of the way (but under foot) when the sail is up, or attach it to the foil. I have both dacron

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2014-04-02 Thread Martin DeYoung
The way Bruckmann built this 43 we could take all the core out and it would sail just fine. Might sashay a little in a seaway, but the hull and deck would keep the shape. The outer deck skin is ¼" to 3/8" thick, the balsa 3/8" to ½", the inner skin 1/8th. No core in high load area and where t

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2014-04-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Martin I was being funny. Kind of like removing the bones from a foredeck cow I like what you are doing. I have done a lot of that on Nut Case as well but a skinny 27 foot boat is a whole different animal than a 43 footer. Your project is tremendous in scope! The over-drill/epoxy/redr

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Blanchard
I don't believe in the quit fix like Poli-Glow, I was a believer at one time until I had to do some repairs on my boat after a collision. It was an insurance job so I was looking at having the repairs done by a professional. When they started to sand down the the damage area the sand- paper was

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread David Knecht
I guess I don’t agree because #1- the topsides looked great after I Poli-glowed them last spring (in fact I had numerous people come by who had noticed the change and complimented me on it) and #2- the Poli-glow is really easy to strip off using Poli-prep if you need to. I am more concerned a

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2014-04-02 Thread Alan Bergen
My pre-feeder is attached to a padeye, at the base of the forestay, with a piece of line. Once the jib is hoisted, it drops off the luff to the deck. You don't want the pre-feeder attached once the job is hoisted, or it would jam when you try to lower the jib. If your luff rope goes all the way

Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US

2014-04-02 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Marek, Was your boat from Carlyle lake and named American Pie? Ron STL From: Marek Dziedzic To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US Brent,   I paid $3k (US) for moving a boat

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Bill Bina
Sorry, but that is simply a misdiagnosis. Poli Glow is not a "quick fix" any more than waxing is a quick fix. Your "professionals" first unprofessional move was to try and sand off the Poly Glow without knowing what it was. I would not be at all surprised if in their ignorance they ruined your

Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US

2014-04-02 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Marek, Was your boat from Carlyle lake and named American Pie? Ron STL From: Marek Dziedzic To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US Brent,   I paid $3k (US) for moving a boat

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib

2014-04-02 Thread Lee Youngblood
Hi Joel, Take a good look at the boats that are racing well, and see how they do it. The pre-feeder is often on a shock corded line so it re-tracks and stays out of the way, likely mounted on the foil. Do cut the sail luff-line, in just the right place so the pre-feeder can release itself -

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib

2014-04-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike
I had one attached by cord to a shackle at base of forestay when I had the roller furling unit on Nut Case. When using RF sail we of course did not use this. When not using RF sail we would drop the swivel on the RF down to drum level (this involved removing the feeder starter on the foil, droppi

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib

2014-04-02 Thread Bill Bina
I made my own pre-feeder from a couple of scraps of starboard that pinch together via a screw and wingnut. It took a little experimenting to get the shape of the jaws right, but it wasn't that hard, works well, and it was my favorite price. (free) Bill Bina On 4/2/2014 3:06 PM, Hoyt, Mike wro

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Gary Nylander
If one needs to strip Poli-Glow off a boat, use floor stripper from the hardware store. Usually you need to dilute it to get the Future or what other floor polish you have been using off, but if you are brave (we had a bad spot) you can clean it off using the stripper undiluted. Be careful, it i

Stus-List Fw: Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Persuasion
When I finally got fed up with Poly-Glow I tried Poly-prep to remove it to no avail. Good old Easy Off oven cleaner did a great job. Spray it on watch foam turn yellow hose it off. Be careful though it is caustic and can cause a nasty burn. Mike S/V Persuasion C&C 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread dwight
The Poly glow or whatever will deteriorate before the Awl grip which is a very tough polyurethane paint. My recommendation get rid of the poly stuff and clean your Awlgrip and then apply Awlcare if you want more shine.a good Awkgrip coating will out live all that applied goop for many many years.i

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib

2014-04-02 Thread dwight
Not an issue.a prefeeder is the way to go.I have a prefeed and I think it is a necessity _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: April 2, 2014 2:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib All, I was thin

Re: Stus-List which iPad

2014-04-02 Thread ahycrace
Bob thanks for the info I got this notepad for free so I guess I could invest the 7$ to make it usefull. 7$ is about what I have left after last weeks Defender sale. :>) > Gary "bobmor99 ." wrote: > I did a quick search and see that

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib (and folding a headsail properly)

2014-04-02 Thread Dennis C.
Joel, Not sure what you have, furler, Tuff-Luff, etc., but here's my take on pre-feeders. First, highly recommended. They will greatly reduce the potential for ripping a luff tape. (more on that at the bottom). I have the Schaefer 1205-01 roller pre-feeder and love it. Second, attach it with

Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Watts
Try and tell them that. Take a $50 job and turn it into $1.3 million dollars of studies and abnegation of personal responsibilty. I know, let's kill the lawyers first. : ) Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 April 2014 09:50, Wally Bryant wrote: > I don't want to sound li

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 99, Issue 8

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Watts
My pre-feeder lives in my nav table drawer most of the time, it's a Schaefer unit on a hunk of dyneema with a shackle that I clip into someplace on deck (I don't do it a lot, so I forget). I use it maybe once a year. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 April 2014 11:27, Alan

Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Brass
Poly-Glow is essentially acrylic floor wax. If you try to sand without stripping the Poly-Glow first, you end up with the sandpaper gummed up with the acrylic. Nothing wrong wit the chemistry or with the gel coat. Just inexperienced "professionals". I've used Poly-Glow on my 25 since the mid

Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

2014-04-02 Thread Richard N. Bush
enough on the lawyers already...if you kill me I wont be able to finish paying for my C&C!! Richard 1985 37CB Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts To: wal ; 1 CnC List Sent

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib (and folding a headsail properly)

2014-04-02 Thread Rick Brass
Dennis, Every headsail on both of my boats is folded like you describe. And I am constantly surprised that I need to teach just about everyone how to stow a headsail. I'm sure most of them think I'm just an old, opinionated, crotchety guy. But I grew up sailing small boats with hanked on sails

Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Watts
Only a Shakespearean reference, no personal aspersions, extrusions, or ellipses intended. Richard, you are a good sport. Thanks for playing. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 April 2014 21:14, Richard N. Bush wrote: > enough on the lawyers already...if you kill me I won

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib (and folding a headsail properly)

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Knowles
I knew we weren't finished with the hair dryer thing! Rich > On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17, Rick Brass wrote: > > I guess roller curlers and the general demise of ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Pre-feeder for jib (and folding a headsail properly)

2014-04-02 Thread Jim Watts
Now on to 12V roller curlers...this is getting a little esoteric. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Travel-Hair-Curlers-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3FcAAOxyf1dTKBlt/$_35.JPG Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 2 April 2014 21:33, Rich Knowles wrote: > I knew we weren't finished with the hair