Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-17 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-17 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
C 30-1STL From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction David, When I added a 155 I was shocked at how much boat speed I gained over the 135

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
*On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:07 PM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction > > > > There is a third option which you may not have be

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
ress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:31 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction Josh, I didn't not

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread evans.in.gibsons via CnC-List
: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction I’m curious. Why must you reef the main at 12 knots with the 135, while you can carry the full main and 150 to 15, and full main and 100 to 20? Rick BrassWashington, NC   From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
, August 16, 2016 6:32 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: evans.in.gibsons Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction I have a 39. When we race I can carry a 150 in 15 knots. When we started cruise i bought a 135 rolller furl. It was great up to 12 knots then I have to

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread evans.in.gibsons via CnC-List
the performance only in very little winds..i.e. 3 to 4 knots.Go with the 100%. Original message From: jtsails via CnC-List Date: 08-16-2016 3:12 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: jtsails Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction Rick

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread jtsails via CnC-List
16 1:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction Josh; The sailmaker who made my (now retired) 155 called the bubble in the main forward of the max draft a “speed bump”, said it was no big deal on a headsail driven boat lik

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
n list <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction > > I would like to add one more twist to this interesting discussion. I have a > 140% UK tape drive g

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction Joel, With the narrow slot didn't you notice that the main got more back wind? How did you handle this? Josh ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
 I picked up a < 100% #3 with battens for 22+ kts. North quoted three different materials including their new warp oriented polyester cloth. http://nsdnn.northsails.com/Radian/tabid/17344/Default.aspx I ordered it in NorDac Radian NDR 7.5. It works well, so much so that even down to 18 kts it is

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction Rick: If you were getting say, a 150% genoa made from a lighter cloth than what you are proposing (8.88 and 9

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
laminates. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:07 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction There is a t

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Josh, I didn't notice a big difference, but the wind was less than 10 knots. I generally trim the main by looking at the leech. and position of the boom. Maybe Jake can chime in - it was his sail on my boat for Bermuda. Joel On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
avid Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction I would like to add one more twist to this interesting discussion. I have a 140% UK tape drive genoa I got 3 years ago. My main competitor in Wednesday night beer can racing is a C&C 36 which has a 150-155 racing t

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Joel, With the narrow slot didn't you notice that the main got more back wind? How did you handle this? Josh On Aug 16, 2016 11:26 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > David, > > When I added a 155 I was shocked at how much boat speed I gained over the > 135 in light air. We also had the

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
As others have said at such a heavy weight you probably won't notice a difference between the tri-radial and the cross cut. I experience the same thing with wines. A great wine doesn't distinguish itself from a good one unless tasted side by side. A crosscut sail tends to stretch diagonally to t

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
David, When I added a 155 I was shocked at how much boat speed I gained over the 135 in light air. We also had the inboard jib tracks for use with the 155. The inboard tracks made for a very narrow slot, but it was fast if you paid attention! Its not you! Joel Formerly 35/3 The Office On Tue,

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I would like to add one more twist to this interesting discussion. I have a 140% UK tape drive genoa I got 3 years ago. My main competitor in Wednesday night beer can racing is a C&C 36 which has a 150-155 racing triradial laminate genoa (no UV protective, kevlar I think). In 5-12 knots of wi

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Rick — I don’t know if it will help you any, but I’ve posted a photo taken this past weekend of my new Rolly Tasker 135 genoa on my web server. This was under light air (maybe 6-8 knots apparent — I don’t have a wind instrument, so I’m just guessing). It’s a cross cut design, and seems to work

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
, August 16, 2016 7:27 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction Rick, Have you considered that the boat show season is coming up fast and you will likely be able to score a 15% discount if you wait and order at the boat show

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I'm surprised it is only a 15% difference! What cloth is he proposing for the tri radial? I would not go with a cheaper cloth and a tri-radial. FWIW, The Office had an 8 ounce cross cut. You got a good look at it. Joel On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:17 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote: > Rick: > > I

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread robert via CnC-List
Rick: If you were getting say, a 150% genoa made from a lighter cloth than what you are proposing (8.88 and 9.1 oz.), I would definitely spend the extra money and get a tri-radial. For a 135% from cloth this weight, I doubt there is much of a performance difference between the tri-radical an

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-16 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
(GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’m in the process of getting a new set of sails for Imzadi. Thank you to the listers who recommended lofts and commented on their experiences

Re: Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-15 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Rick, Tri-Radials are just sexier. There. I had to say it. Seriously though, I’m a big fan of tri-radial sails. I have an old 140% tri-radial on Ronin that has well withstood the test of time in terms of keeping its shape and performance. It hasn’t been used for years and is in the attic but

Stus-List Opinions about new headsail construction

2016-08-15 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm in the process of getting a new set of sails for Imzadi. Thank you to the listers who recommended lofts and commented on their experiences. The specs for the new main are pretty well set. All the quotes so far have recommended cross cut, loose foot, full b