Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-11 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
I have two forestays with furlers, with the inner mounted about 18" lower on the mast (and about 24" aft on the deck). Neither have restrainers that I can see, and I only have wrapping issues if I forget to put a bit of tension on the halyard before unfurling. With too much tension, the furler may

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem, now birds and stones

2020-04-09 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Wish i could swat that damned invisible tiny virus On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:36 PM David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds with one stone”. Who > wants to kill birds with stones, let alone two at once? Horrible thought. >

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
> *To:* David Knecht via CnC-List > *Cc:* Graham Collins > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Halyard problem > > > > No restrainer, no problem. Harken furler, I replaced a broken Hood furler > the previous owner had, no evidence there's ever been a restrainer on the > m

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
; resolve my problem without adding a restrainer. > > > > -Original Message- > From: David Knecht via CnC-List > To: CnC CnC discussion list > Cc: David Knecht > Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 10:44 am > Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyard problem > > Francois emailed me

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem, now birds and stones

2020-04-09 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
In french we say  "faire d'une pierre deux coups" which translates to "getting two hits with one shot" Can mean many things...Or nothing SylvainC&C27MkIII On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:36:59 PM EDT, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote: Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds w

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem, now birds and stones

2020-04-09 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds with one stone”. Who wants to kill birds with stones, let alone two at once? Horrible thought. We can have a contest to come up with alternatives. Mine is: “kill two mosquitos with one swat”. Absolutely no guilt. Dave S/V Aries 1990 C&C

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
tack is actually easier to attach to the drum fitting than the sail itself. As such, I killed two birds with one stone. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 12:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
t; Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 10:44 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyard problem Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard restrainer and has never had a problem with halyard wrap. So I am considering removing the re

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
Hi,  I installed my restrainer same time I installed my Harken Mark IV furler, according to documentation I needed one and it was my feeling as well ( looking at the angle I had on my 27 ).This is what Haren had to say about it : To be used if angle between halyard and headstay is less than 7°.

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Michael Brannon via CnC-List
I do not have a halyard restrainer but I do need one. It is in my chart table waiting to be put on. Having said that I generally do not use my roller furler as I primarily race the my boat. FYI, Harken recommends the following to prevent halyard wrap: 1. Halyard swivel should be within to

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Divid, You've had the boat a while and the restrainer was probably suggested by the sailmaker and the sails cut to reflect that, so removing it may cause new problems. Is the halyard chafe new? When did it start? I would look for something that has changed recently. Has the restrainer be

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 10:44 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyard problem Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard restrainer and has never had a problem with halyard wrap. So I am considering removing the restraine

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: David Knecht via CnC-List To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 10:44 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyard problem Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard restrainer

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
lto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 10:55 AM To: David Knecht via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Graham Collins mailto:cnclistforw...@hotmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Halyard proble

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 10:55 AM To: David Knecht via CnC-List Cc: Graham Collins Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Halyard problem No restrainer, no problem. Harken furler, I replaced a broken Hood furler the previous owner had, no evidence there's ever been a restrainer on the mast

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
No restrainer, no problem.  Harken furler, I replaced a broken Hood furler the previous owner had, no evidence there's ever been a restrainer on the mast. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2020-04-09 11:43 a.m., David Knecht via CnC-List wrote: Francois emailed me off list to say t

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-09 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Francois emailed me off list to say that with the same rig, he has no halyard restrainer and has never had a problem with halyard wrap. So I am considering removing the restrainer. This is surely to some extent rig specific, but I am wondering 1. how many people have them and how many don’t

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
has worked for years without problems.  Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2020 8:12 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Halyard problem Hi Josh, Thanks for sharing the

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Glad to help! On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 20:12 CHARLES SCHEAFFER wrote: > Hi Josh, > Thanks for sharing the picture. Now I know I can mount my Harken > restrainer properly onto the mast and not worry so much about having room > for the headstay/furler. > > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Pasa

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Thanks for sharing the picture. Now I know I can mount my Harken restrainer properly onto the mast and not worry so much about having room for the headstay/furler. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Pasadena, Md > On April 7, 2020 at 6:59 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote:

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I have the same piece. I think it acts as a chafe guard and fairlead to prevent the spin halyards from having added friction on the sheave box since it is not unusual for spin takedowns to be more up wind or broad wind. Are you getting halyard wear 7 or so inches from the shackle? From the looks

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Dave, Looking at your pictures, I agree that something is scoring the original Offshore Spars SS cage. Probably not a soft halyard, but a harder SS Schackle. My boat, Hull #2 has the very same cage and no chafing. Your pictures don't show it in it's proper place. I question if the cage i

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
The filing you see was done last week by me with a flap disk wheel when I had things apart to try to minimize the problem. I could try to grind it further, but then it occurred to me that since I use the spinnaker rarely, the whole thing might be an unnecessary part (solves one problem and crea

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
rk your way > progressively finer until it is smooth. > > > > > > Bill Coleman > > Erie PA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David > Knecht via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2020 7:37 AM > *To:

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 7:37 AM To: CnC discussion list CnC Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Halyard problem I think I have found the source of the wear on my genoa halyard and I believe it is the stainless steel piece that all three halyards run through. The genoa halyard sits against

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
ny years ago...good work guys! Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Richard Bush via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Richard Bush Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2020 9:06 am Subject: Re: Stus-L

Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
That entire stainless steel assembly is there to try to prevent wear on port and starboard spinnaker halyards, where they exit the mast. We have essentially the same assembly on our mast, on our 37/40. On ours the Genoa halyard does not rub on the bottom plate, it does't touch it at the bottom at

Stus-List Halyard problem

2020-04-07 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I think I have found the source of the wear on my genoa halyard and I believe it is the stainless steel piece that all three halyards run through. The genoa halyard sits against the bottom edge of that plate where I can imagine it sawing back and forth. You can see it in these photos: https://