Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-23 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
RVk . Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO - Original Message - From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Gary Nylander" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:05:11 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-23 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
ary > > #593 > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *RANDY > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:41 AM > *To:* cnc-list > *Cc:* RANDY > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? > > &

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-23 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
pull it next year. Gary #593 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:41 AM To: cnc-list Cc: RANDY Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Revisiting this thread, as I came across a few

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2017-03-22 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
"David" Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:46:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? If you have a catastrophic failure good batteries and luck (attentive neighbors?) will save her on the mooring. If you have bilge pump counter on an automatic telling

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2017-03-09 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Thanks Josh, Very helpful! Kindest Regards, Bruce 847.404.5092 Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone. > On Mar 9, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > Check out a water witch switch. > > I had automatic Rule that "sensed" the presence of water every

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I installed the Whaler Gulper 320 in the area under the forward dining bench seat and used a remote pickup directly under the mast step. I wired in a Whale BE9006 electronic bilge switch with delay and have a three way ON - OFF - AUTO switch. The combination works well. When there was a centrifug

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump

2017-03-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Check out a water witch switch. I had automatic Rule that "sensed" the presence of water every 2.5 minutes. It was so inconsistent about turning off that I ga e up and used it like a manual pump. The I think it was OEM but may have been the PO that wired the manual switch and a float switch in p

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Neil Andersen via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Neil Andersen Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Not all auto-pumps are like that.  I have a switch on mine that can be live, off, or manual.

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread David via CnC-List
battery with fuse... Cheap insurance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: CnC-List on behalf of David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:45 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump

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2017-03-08 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I’m at a dock, always plugged in. I leave the house system on to keep the ice box cold. Nothing worse than warm beer. From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:45 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Not all auto-pumps are like that.  I have a switch on mine that can be live, off, or manual. Neil Andersen, M.Sc. Auburn, NY 13021 _ From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
RANDY via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:20 PM > To: cnc-list > Cc: RANDY > Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? > > I'm replacing my bilge pump and plumbing right now. Just last night > bought an 1100gph automatic Rule pump to replac

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
ted by a > circuit breaker switch. I recently purchased a Water Witch for the bilge and > a three-way switch for for the circuit breaker panel. > > From: RANDY via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:20 PM > To: cnc-list > Cc: RANDY > Subject: Re: Stus-List Autom

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
-List Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:20 PM To: cnc-list Cc: RANDY Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? I'm replacing my bilge pump and plumbing right now. Just last night bought an 1100gph automatic Rule pump to replace the same (age unknown) that came with

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
ssage - From: "Rick Rohwer via CnC-List" To: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" Cc: "Rick Rohwer" Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:39:27 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Mine is also a Rule (I think the capacity is around 650gpm) with

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
re > *Reply-To: *Bruce Whitmore > *Date: *Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM > *To: *C&C List > *Subject: *Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? > > > > Hello all, > > > > We have a deep, but small bilge just forward of the mast on our CYC > 37/

Stus-List Automatic bilge pump

2017-03-08 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Bruce, I have the same pump as you. I don't think it uses enough power to worry about when checking for water, the pump motor doesn't run, it only powers a sensor. It also has a test button. I like the small size with relatively large capacity. Float systems have disadvantages, they can fail too

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread tprice--- via CnC-List
: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM To: C&C List Subject: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Hello all, We have a deep, but small bilge just forward of the mast on our CYC 37/40+, and I need to replace the bilge pump. It had a Rule 1100 GPH automatic pump (rather than one

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
message From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Date: 3/8/17 08:40 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations? Sorry Josh, in retrospect I misspoke, the deep sump is, in fact aft of the mast, and not forward of it

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
sting pump was mounted to a makeshift stainless steel bracket. Thanks for the input!  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mine has limber holes that allow all the water to accumulate in the deep sump located about 2 ft aft of the mast. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 8, 2017 10:03 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > We have a deep, but small

Stus-List Automatic Bilge Pump? Recommendations?

2017-03-08 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, We have a deep, but small bilge just forward of the mast on our CYC 37/40+, and I need to replace the bilge pump.  It had a Rule 1100 GPH automatic pump (rather than one that has a separate float switch).  It seems like a pretty small area, and I would like to continue to use a pump w

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-04 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
, 2016 5:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when the switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry. However when the pump shuts off water flows

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-03 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 7:28 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check valves in bilge discharges, I've had one in Touche' for a decad

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-03 Thread Dave via CnC-List
In my 33ii Had been thinking of using my rarely-used shower pan drain pump and connecting it to a diverter valve which would select between the bilge and the shower. Would plumb a hose and wire a float switch in the bilge, with a solid state relay by the existing switch in the head, wired in

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
That's what I use for a check valve too. Nobody ever blamed us for being conventional and no mention of wise either. :) I have a Whale low profile stuffed way down below the mast as well. It dries the bilge much better than the old system. http://www.westmarine.com/buy/whale-pumps--super-sub

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
I bought a check valve from Grainger plumbing five years ago a d wouldn't look back. Keep your bilge clean and you won't have a problem. Installed right next to bilge pump so access easy. Raise switch a little, put in che Ck valve. Done. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Satu

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Raising it doesn't help. Just more water in the bilge. The pump is a Whale. Joel On Saturday, January 2, 2016, Sailnomad via CnC-List wrote: > You can do one of the following: > - Raise the mounting of the water witch. > - Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose > > Check valves are designed fo

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
You can do one of the following: - Raise the mounting of the water witch. - Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose Check valves are designed for preventing instantaneous backflow. Pretty much all of them will eventually leak the water back into the bilge, so you will still cycle, only with a long

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check valves in bilge discharges, I've had one in Touche' for a decade and a half with no issues whatsoever. I think the secret is the type of check valve one installs. Jabsco, Whale and Bosworth make check valves for bilge discharges. I have this one: ht

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
: Saturday, January 02, 2016 17:52 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help While it would not be my choice, if you do decide to install a check valve, install it where you can get at it. They do stick shut sometimes, and for no obvious reason

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
thought to check the check. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 16:52 Subject: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help I repl

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
l.  Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie PA Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date: 01/02/2016 4:52 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a wa

Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Greg Arnold via CnC-List
Can you raise up the Water Witch switch so it is several inches above the water that drains back into the bilge? We recently installed the same switch in a Catalina 400 to eliminate the problem you have.  The advantage of the Water Witch is that it keeps ru

Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

2016-01-02 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when the switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry. However when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so the pump is running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a ch

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Spencer Johnson via CnC-List
Very interesting discussion...my LF38 came with a Jabsco WaterPuppy pump mounted aft of the engine with a long hose and 90 degree strainer to the lowest part of the blige...just aft of the mast. The bilge pump exit is just a few feet up to port of the pump, just below the rubrail. A very effic

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
wanted the bilge to be as dry as possible because of the way the cross members are installed in a 30-1. Gary - Original Message - From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Stus-List automatic bilge pum

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Here's a very expensive solution http://www.aridbilge.com The nice thing is that it can handle up to 8 (IIRC) different little spaces. So pockets of water between stringers or below limber holes can be removed. Very low flow rate though so it is just a finishing touch type of system. Josh On O

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Frers 33 > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Jean-Francois > J Rivard via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:18 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems > > &

Stus-List Automatic bilge pump problems - pump cycling

2014-10-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The 35-1 has a very shallow bilge with a small volume sump just behind and under the mast step. Touche' has a 1500 GPH Rule bilge pump tucked tightly into a space behind the mast step. It's a tight fit. With a large capacity pump and a small volume bilge, the issue of pump cycling is very real.

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems When I got the boat it had a Rule automatic pump that determined if there was water by running on occasion and measuring if there is a resistance to turn the impeller.. While it sounds smart in theory, in practice the impeller gets gooked-up with normal

Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-14 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
When I got the boat it had a Rule automatic pump that determined if there was water by running on occasion and measuring if there is a resistance to turn the impeller.. While it sounds smart in theory, in practice the impeller gets gooked-up with normal bilge crap and gets hard to turn whet

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Tom: Your electronic bilge pump switch shouldn't be mounted to the bottom of the bilge. Try lifting it a bit to see whether it solves your problem. If the sensor on the switch is always in the water, it will never shut off, and the bilge pump might not be getting the water low enough. These sw

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
ut at least we were not far from a suitable anchorage. Steve Thomas - Original Message - From: Richard N. Bush via CnC-List To: capt...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; t...@sv-alera.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump pro

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
ct: Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems Sounds like something is wrong with the pump. My check valve holds water and the hose is propably as long as anyone's. The pump has no problem. Make sure you are using the correct diameter hose and minimizing other possible restrictions such

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
rd N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:44 PM To: capt...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; t...@sv-alera.com Subject: Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems Dennis, et al; for the bilge, is there an alternative to having a long discharge hose going to the stern? My pump works,

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sounds like something is wrong with the pump. My check valve holds water and the hose is propably as long as anyone's. The pump has no problem. Make sure you are using the correct diameter hose and minimizing other possible restrictions such a kinks. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomo

Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems

2014-10-13 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
Dennis, et al; for the bilge, is there an alternative to having a long discharge hose going to the stern? My pump works, and there has been a check valve put in by PO, but the long hose simply holds the water and the bilge pump can't do its job... thanks Richard Richard N. Bush 1985 37 CB;