t 1:48 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
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>>> I'd love to see that as well Josh.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Bruce Whitmore
>>>
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>> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>> *To:* C&C List
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2018 10:22 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay tension
>>
>> With that info I'll he
uckley
> *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2018 10:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay tension
>
> With that info I'll head down to my boat and apply various psi to the
> hydraulics and then measure the tension with my loos gauge.
>
> Josh
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018,
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From: Chuck Borge
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Tom,
Can you tell me more about your boom furler?
Considering one for my 41.
Brand, fitment, pix if you can... price if you?re comfortable, to
I'd love to see that as well Josh.
Thanks!
Bruce Whitmore
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay tension
With that info
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> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
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>
>
> At 07:31 AM 8/3/2018, you wrote:
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 10:20:55 -0400
> From: Gary Russell
> To: "C&
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 10:20:55 -0400
>> From: Gary Russell
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Mine was rod upper and lower with no backstay adjuster at all. This year I
had the lowers made to wire to I could add a simple haul down tensioner,
works great except I have to go up and put a smaller metal ring between the
two wire blocks so when loose it will ride higher up, it's probably about a
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Tom,
The back stay with baby stay make a dramatic difference in the
handling and performance of the boat upwind when it starts to blow. I do
agree that the abse
tachment points I okay with that.
>>
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> S/V Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon WA
>> P 206.463.9200
>> C 305.409.3660
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2018, at 4:59 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>
>> Mess
Josh,
Great! I would be most interested in the displacement of the
hydraulic RAM vs. the Loos gauge tension, since I don't have a working
pressure gauge:
What would be most interesting to me, would be a table like:
Pressure Loos Gauge Displacement of the RAM in inches
pou
With that info I'll head down to my boat and apply various psi to the
hydraulics and then measure the tension with my loos gauge.
Josh
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 10:17 AM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> So... I went over to Kaylarah this morning and found the following:
>
s re the attachment points I okay with that.
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2018, at 4:59 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 22:07:57
So... I went over to Kaylarah this morning and found the following:
The back stay diagonals are 235" long
The spread between the attachments is 80"
Doing the math, that means if the maximum tension on the vertical rod is
5000 lbs., then the tension on the diagonals is 2537 lbs.
>From here you can
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> Interesting. All parts of our backstay are r
Rich,
2700 what? Pounds pressure on the gauge? Pounds tension on the lower
wire? Pounds tension on the upper rod?
Gary
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Interesting. All parts of our backstay are rod, the double lowers and the
single upper. The upper is a larger diameter (as you would expect). Two
hydraulic rams, one each side.
Some of you have wire for the lower section?
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Actually, if you look closely at the manual, you will notice that the
4125 lbs. refers to "wire limit", and 5000 lbs. refers to "rod limit".
Since the vertical part of the back stay assembly is rod, I will assume
that the 5000 lbs. refers to the vertical. I will go over to the boat
tomorrow a
Absolutely without any doubt in my mind the backstay tension of 4125 is to
be measured on the mainline. This works in opposition to the head stay
which is equally sized #12 rod.
Josh
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 8:41 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
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> Hi Josh,
> Oops!
Hi Josh,
Oops! I missed that. I looked in the chapter about rigging and
didn't find it there. Silly me! I even searched for the number 4125 and
found nothing. I guess the document is an image rather than text. Now the
question, is that the tension in the vertical part of the back stay? I
Page 68 of the manual pdf file which I linked before has the pre-load and
max load limits.
Again I am corrected in my preconceived notions regarding the correlation
between a hydraulic gauge and the tensile load on the back stay.
Josh
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 8:13 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-
Dennis,
I agree, and have a "calibrated" batten on mine as well, but I still
need the designer to tell me when I am exceeding the design limits of the
hard point where the back stay attaches to the transom.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
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On Thu, Aug
I never go by lbs, psi, whatever. What matters is sail shape and forestay
sag (or lack thereof). I have a small dinghy batten taped to the AFT side
of the cylinder of the backstay adjuster. On the batten are small wraps of
green, yellow, red and black tape. These are positioned so the fitting o
Hi Josh,
Where did you find the 4125 or 5000 lb. limit? I don't see that in
the Owners Manual? Is the 4125 lb. limit for the lower angled segments of
the the back stay or the upper vertical part. You can't simply measure the
port back stay tension and multiply by two, because of the angle b
The manual says limit to 4125lbs and then says absolute max of 5000lbs.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ySXFBdDhrX0ZaMzNnazViYkZzRVRoODlSSUd3/view?usp=drivesdk
I never considered that the hydraulic pressure psi could/would be
independent of tensile load. When I had my hydraulic pump r
Does anyone know the maximum back stay tension allowed on the C&C
37+. My problem is the hydraulic back stay adjuster pressure gauge has
failed and I don't even know what the maximum pressure spec allowed is,
anyway. I'm concerned that at least one owner has had the attachment
points on the
I'm pretty sure that is how all the 37+'s look right up until the u-bolt
pulls the blacking plate and top of the fiberglass "step" clean off the
boat. Keep a close eye on it.
Josh
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On Aug 26, 2013 9:57 AM, "Edd Schillay" wrote:
> Joel,
>
The joy of boat ownership!
Joel
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Edd Schillay wrote:
> Joel,
>
> Funny you said that. When I did the look-see to take the photos, I noticed
> that as well. Everything appears to be solid though. I may redo it over the
> winter just to be extra safe.
>
>
>
> All
Joel,
Funny you said that. When I did the look-see to take the photos, I
noticed that as well. Everything appears to be solid though. I may redo it over
the winter just to be extra safe.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
Edd,
It looks like you have dis-similar metals with an aluminum backing plate
and stainless bolts. I'd take a close look at them.
Joel
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Edd Schillay wrote:
> All,
>
> I think my mounts are original and have not had any troubles. Here are
> some pics:
>
> https
All,
I think my mounts are original and have not had any troubles. Here are
some pics:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/stern.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/port.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/E
Thanks for all the info. Stay tuned for repair ideas.
Richard H. Hulit, Jr.
1 917 854-5537 mobile
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Edd and Ken,
Chuck contacted me with concern about the way the PO engineered a fix for
this weakness. Now I can't help being equally interested in pictures of
your boats.
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On Aug 22, 2013 10:31 AM, "Edd Schillay" wrote:
> Rich,
>
>
Rich,
Check out the pictures I took of my rig. I knew this area to be a weakness
of the 37+ because I had almost bought Blue Pearl a 1990 37+. The port
side U-bolt looked to have previously pulled nearly completely out. The
surveyor almost missed it since it had been partially repaired.
I was
Rich,
I also have a 1990 C&C 37+ based in City Island. I've had the boat for
8 years now, and have not had a problem with our backstay mounts either. I'll
take a close look this weekend at it all and take some photos if you like.
All the best,
Edd
Ed
I haven't had to do anything to either of our backstays mounts. I have
been told no to go over 2,500 psi on the rams though, so I don't. This
boat was raced quite a bit in the past, including several Marblehead to
Halifax Ocean Races so if they were going to let go, you'd think they would
have by
That's the boat I remember reading about!
John
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On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Josh Muckley wrote:
> Its not Blue Pearl is it?
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
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> On Aug 21,
PO did some pretty creative reinforcements. I'll try to remember to take
pictures.
I do think backstay tangs extending down the transom is a good solution.
Josh
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On Aug 21, 2013 6:44 PM, "Rhhulit" wrote:
> Hi would you post this? Thanks
Its not Blue Pearl is it?
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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On Aug 21, 2013 6:44 PM, "Rhhulit" wrote:
> Hi would you post this? Thanks!
>
> This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put
> some
I do recall seeing something about this on a 37+ owners individual web site.
Do a search and you may find it. If not, hopefully he is still on this list.
John
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On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Rhhulit wrote:
> Hi would you post this? Thanks!
>
> This list is very helpful. W
On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Rhhulit wrote:
> Hi would you post this? Thanks!
>
> This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some
> backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the
> ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have som
Hi would you post this? Thanks!
This list is very helpful. We are recent owners of a 1990 37+. I put some
backstay on while motorsailing this weekend and managed to partially pull the
ridiculously poorly engineered mount.I have some ideas on repair-grind off
the bulge, big backing plate
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