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This is after the 12 meters were abandoned in fav
ds on a sport boat. However, when he talks about the boat
he'll buy when he gets out of college and can afford one what he wants is
a Melges 24, not a racer cruiser..
Just sayin'
-Francois Rivard
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Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 09:26:13 -0400
From: "Marek Dziedzic"
To:
sail our boats (at least in
theory). I think this is why we all liked it more.
just my 2c
Marek
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Australian Cup Wing Keel
This is after the 12 meters
This is after the 12 meters were abandoned in favor of the larger America's Cup
Class (ACC). I know they were faster and could surf a large wave IIRC.However,
there was nothing that pointed higher than the 12m and it certainly created
some neat tactical races.I kinda wish we were back to the tw
Conner's boat in 1987 was Stars and Stripes.his team designed a keel
they called a 'proboscis keel'...this from a book I have with only
one picture of the keel..others called it a 'bulbous keel'
It is the weirdest thing to look at but it worked for Conner and Stars
and Stripes..
Gary,
There were several renditions of Young America syndicates.
This is the yacht in question
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_America_(1994_yacht)
Connor won the defender series on Stars and Stripes but switched boats.
Chuck Gilchrest
Half Magic
1983 LF 35
Padanaram MA
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Conner's boat was not Young America (a syndicate out of New York Yacht
Club), but I believe it was Stars & stripes. The skmipper for Young
America was Ed Baird.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
Painted by Roy Lichenstein. It's at the Storm King sculpture garden. Jerry.
J&J. 27-V.
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> On May 1, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Connor's Stars and Stripes was much slower than Young America and was given
> the OK to switch boats to YA
The 12 Metre with the canard--forward rudder--was USA 61 sailed by Tom
Blackhaller built for the 1987 Americas Cup. In Oz. She's still in Newport, at
New England boat works looking pretty sad. She was apparently an incredibly
difficult boat to steer but when they had it right, was very fast. The
Connor's Stars and Stripes was much slower than Young America and was given the
OK to switch boats to YA for the unsuccessful Cup Defense against Russell
Coutts on New Zeeland. Young America was famously painted with a Mermaid
along the top sides of the hull.
When I bought my original Half
Had to google it. It was a 4th Stars & Stripes (87). Had to google it but I
believe the boat you’re thinking of is Tom Blackaller’s Heart of America.
John
> On May 1, 2016, at 1:16 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Actually I thought Young America was the boat with the forward rudde
Actually I thought Young America was the boat with the forward rudder. old age
is terrible as I can’t recall the skipper’s name - very famous and talented
fellow. Conners went with a 2nd Stars & Stripes.
John
> On May 1, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Agree,
> John Be
I was at a presentation many years ago where they spoke about Liberty.
Apparently she had a list from day one which they had to compensate for with
ballast. Liberty ended up being a heavier boat with less sail area than
Australia II. Really not a fair fight. The fact it went to seven races i
Agree,
John Bertrand wrote a book that described the design process of the Australian
winged keel, the controversy around it, and he stated the keel was chosen to
get more sail area within the rule, and the hull was very fast and another keel
might have improved it further. That keel was weird,
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