Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
m: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:36 PM To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone I imagine that not sailing with jib only applies to fractional rigs without ru

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-22 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:36 PM To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone I imagine that not sailing with jib only applies to fractiona

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-20 Thread LKL Architects via CnC-List
el Aronson via CnC-List To: David Donnelly ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone Thanks everyone for confirming that I m not doing any harm. The boat sails well with just the 135 even upwind. I may sail tha

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Thanks everyone for confirming that I m not doing any harm. The boat sails well with just the 135 even upwind. I may sail that way more often! Joel On Friday, September 19, 2014, David Donnelly via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I often sail with a single sail with my wife on board.

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread David Donnelly via CnC-List
I often sail with a single sail with my wife on board. She likes everything about sailing except the sailing (heeling) so I like to keep it relatively calm if the wind is over 10 kts. If the wind is up and direction favors reaching most of the day I only use the main, but if the wind is light an

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "DeYoung, Martin" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 4:50:29 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
c-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone > … applies to fractional rigs without running back stays. It could also apply to mast head rigs without back stays.< What Fred said matches my understanding of why t

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
mast pumping. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:36 PM To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-L

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
I imagine that not sailing with jib only applies to fractional rigs without running back stays. It could also apply to mast head rigs with out back stays. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Porland, Or On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I have sailed in storm conditions several times with only a jib and no problems. The main, when hoisted, dies stabilize the mast. But with the rig on the 40, for instance, I would crank on the baby stay and back stay to induce bend and then rig the runners fairly hard. The mast would be perfect

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Bill said: I also never move the boat anywhere, even under power, without having both the main and genoa (as well as the anchor) ready to deploy on short notice if the need arises. I think, it is otherwise called “good seamanship”, isn’t it? Marek__

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I do this more often than not when not racing. And when racing, a few instances where the wind went 25 - 35 Kts, button up the main and use the Genoa alone. I will leave the genoa slightly cracked off though, because keeping it flat in those conditions is a lot of strain. It sails great like t

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
The main functions the same as a line going from the masthead to the end of the boom. The mainsheet and vang pulling that structure downward act on that to pull the mast rearward, or at least apply pressure in that direction. I sometimes sail with just the Genoa, but I do apply a little tensio

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Greg Arnold via CnC-List
I remember reading somewhere years ago that the main helps stabilize the rig.   Not sure exactly what that means, but every time you fall off a wave the rig vibrates.  If you have the main up, it probably prevents some of the vibration.   That might be a factor if

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone I often go jib only when shorthanded. You lose a little point on the 27-3 but that's all. _ From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: ‎2014-‎09-‎19 12:04 PM T

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I am afraid that the idea of the “uneven loading on the rig” is another myth. Your rig (not the rigging, but the boat, as a whole) is unbalanced. How much, it depends on the size and shape of your jib. I think the problem stems from the fact that in lighter winds, you want to have as much sai

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
I've also heard that sailing with just the jib is bad but I'm not sure I buy it. When you sail with the main and jib you are not removing the point load from the jib, but adding the distributed load from the main as well. By the way, what has surprised me is how well the 35-1 balances with j

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
I often go jib only when shorthanded. You lose a little point on the 27-3 but that's all. -Original Message- From: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" Sent: ‎2014-‎09-‎19 12:04 PM To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Stus-List sailing under jib alone All, Earlier this week I went out for a l

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
y is small. Leslie Phoenix, C&C32 1983 On Fri, 9/19/14, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 9:32 AM #yiv0687702606 #yiv0687702606 --

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-19 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I can’t speak for all boats, but I have been doing this since the 1980s and the rig is still intact. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent